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Posted 01/29/2025   10:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add cashcraft to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
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I bought a small lot of stamps for $15 about 8.years ago and these were included. I don't believe they are coil stamps cause they are perforated on all sides. If that's right then what are they and do they have any more value over single stamps? Thank you so much for your help. It's very much appreciated.






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Posted 01/29/2025   11:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Those Hitler stamps were never issued in coils ,so we can say somebody just took a sheet of stamps and torn them that way . Those sheets were offered to me at $1.00 per sheet of 100 . I went back 3 times to buy them and each time I ran out of money as a buyer . Dealers have had them for years and happy to sell at that price .
The biggest market for them is in Eastern Europe ,they are happy to get them and overprint them and resell them on EBAY as Occupation or as Liberated overprints back to dumb people who think it is a unknown rare issue .

I kid you not ,more Hitler overprints were "discovered " after 1990 as computer printing became popular .
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Posted 01/30/2025   12:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is it just me or does it look like each rolled strip has more than the ten stamps that you get from taking a column from a sheet?
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Posted 01/30/2025   01:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is the usual source of misinformation. Several of the Hitler stamps, including at least the 5 and 20 pf were issued in rolls.

https://www.philastudio.com/artikel...banderolen-2
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Edited by NSK - 01/30/2025 01:46 am
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Posted 01/30/2025   07:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Most of the lower face value stamps of that series were issued in rolls, booklets, and 10x10 sheets. Michel prices the stamps from rolls in strips of 11, as that's how they can be distinguished from strips cut from the 10x10 sheets.

2023 MNH CV for the values shown are:

5 Pf - 15€
16 Pf - 100€
20 Pf - 30€
24 Pf - 25€

And again, that's per strip of 11. But do keep in mind that they would typically sell for only a fraction of CV.
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Edited by PostmasterGS - 01/30/2025 07:19 am
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Posted 01/30/2025   10:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting information. If a dealer had shown me that box, thinking that I buy weird foreign stuff, I would have made a face.



ETA: I would have made this face and not this face
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Edited by Cjd - 01/30/2025 10:38 am
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Posted 01/30/2025   3:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
It is the usual source of misinformation.


I don't know why I thought I was alone in thinking the same thing.
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Posted 01/31/2025   09:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Are there any differences between the perforation gauge of the coil stamps compared to the sheet and booklet stamps?
Were the sheet stamps line, comb or harrow perforated?
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Posted 01/31/2025   10:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Germania to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No difference in perf gauge or method of perforating. That's why you need a strip of 11 or more to know it is from a coil.
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Posted 01/31/2025   10:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Do we know why rolls were created? Was there a specific reason?
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Posted 01/31/2025   10:55 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The earlier invention of the frankfurter?
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Posted 01/31/2025   11:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I assume so they could be dispensed from a machine.
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Posted 01/31/2025   11:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add aolsson to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The main reason for issuing them was the use in vending machines and affixing machines.You now and then see them miscut on covers
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Posted 01/31/2025   11:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Can you show me where the Scott Catalog or the Stanley Gibbons carry those as legitimate stamps . Those coils are questionable to what they are .

Looks like a outside party made those for their own vending machine . That it why it was rejected as postal issued coils


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Edited by floortrader - 01/31/2025 11:43 am
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Posted 01/31/2025   11:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can't speak about SG. Scott doesn't list them. But then again, Scott's German listings aren't very comprehensive, and what listings the do have are hot garbage.

Michel lists the following Rollermarken im Elferstreifen (roll/coil stamps in strips of 11) for this set

Here's an auction image showing several of the Elferstreifen.

I have several complete rolls and Elferstreifen in my collection, but I haven't scanned the Hitler ones yet.
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Posted 01/31/2025   11:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Those coils are questionable to what they are .





They exist so what is questionable?
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