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doubling shift to the left shown mostly in the framelines on left and right, the text top and bottom. Some in the face and hair lines in center of image.  |
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So isn't a double transfer, doubling on the plate that is constant and repeatable? Usually a double transfer is not over the whole stamp, just a section. A double impression can be a one off, not always repeatable and will be most of the stamp or all of the stamp. It is not caused by a doubling of the plate. That is my understanding of both terms. |
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Double transfers are repeatable to the specific position. They can be all or part of the design, although allover double transfers are fairly unusual. A double impression is the whole sheet, but is not a repeated event. A kiss print is a partial double impression not caused by going through the press twice, but by the sheet accidentally touching the plate a second time while being removed. |
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I agree. But this is showing all areas for the stamp doubled. Also the doubling is not sharp like a DT. thats why I assumed a doubled impression. |
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A weak double transfer would show up the way your stamp does . The doubling would show up sharpest in the letters due to the open space around them. The vertical lines would appear thicker, the horizontal ones longer because the doubling appears to have been only in one direction. |
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So I have Loran French's book on plate varieties and there is nothing close to this if its a double transfer. There are some listed with 3 or 4 letters doubled but not all 17 letters. I would think a major double transfer like this would have been discovered by now. This is too blurry and covering the whole stamp. The hair, the inner oval and the outer frames, all have blurry doubling. |
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It could be over inked, overwet paper. It is not a kiss print. The lines around the doubled letters look to sharp to be squeezed excess ink. |
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So I did a quick search with stamps close to what I have on PFs data base and they had these certs with a lot of interesting opinions! I only searched 18 pages out of the 76 pages.
Cert No 583078 kiss print
Cert No 601416 double impression
Cert No 549615 slight kiss impression
Cert No 575820 kiss print
Cert No 559845 slight double impression
Cert No 554505 slightly blurred impression
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so here is a real stumper. I have been looking at all the certs in PF and they are all over the board with their descriptions and what constitutes a double impression. look at this cert. I can't see doubling anywhere on this block of 4 and they confirm it is a double impression.
Cert No 438446
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And then this one is not a double impression? come on. doesn't make any sense. there is clear solid doubling over the whole stamp. PF Cert No 429278 |
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If the paper slips slightly as it is pulled from the plate it could produce a result like this.
A double impression would not leave one strong impression and one ghost impression. It is also hard to imagine the printing process where the second print aligns so squarely with the first. Just a 1-2 mm shift to the left? |
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