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Posted 02/08/2022   1:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add dllimoges to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Recent acquisitions included a large Great Britain collection of Great Britain Perfins. I have never dealt with these before and was surprised at the amazing numbers of possibilities! So many Questions. Here is one of many examples. A Registered cover Great Britain 1907. Wm Brandt's & Sons London. First is the color Grey brown or Chocolate brown and green, Secondly is it chalk surface paper and lastly I cannot see the punched dot pattern depicting the initials of the company. Does anyone have any ideas, please


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Posted 02/08/2022   1:42 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's WB & Co, as in the sender's name.

More info here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willi..._Sons_and_Co
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Edited by GeoffHa - 02/08/2022 1:45 pm
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Posted 02/08/2022   2:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dllimoges to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You are so Helpful GeoffHa...Thank you so very much. Any comments on chalk surface or color variety? I read quite a bit of information regarding chalk surface varieties in another forum. This must be a De La Rue !st printing because of the date. The lines are not as sharp, but the paper is smooth with color faint at edges.
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Posted 02/08/2022   2:30 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps NSK will chime in on the stamp. I'm in a similar position to you with perfins - I have a bunch of them, which I've roughly sorted, but not really investigated.
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Posted 02/08/2022   2:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
https://perfinsoc.org.uk/


Go to the above website. These folks are cataloging all British perfins

Peter
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Posted 02/08/2022   2:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dllimoges to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This Perfin Cover is also King Edward VII. I am fairly certain that it is De La Rue printing because of cancel date 1909, it is pale purple and lemon and is chalk surface because of printing skips from chalk powder. It has a Whitechapel London E cancel and the B3420 perfin is correct!

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Posted 02/08/2022   7:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dllimoges to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
All right Peter... I will go there for sure. Thanks for the reference. Collecting these could be a real challenge. As a young collector. 70 years ago. I was advised to ot collect precancels and /or perfins, by the older stamp folks of that century!!!! LOL Thanks for the URL.
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Posted 02/09/2022   04:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommtomm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's definitely a good idea to join the Perfins Club and get the PDF catalog.




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Posted 02/09/2022   10:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dllimoges to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your posting Tommtomm. I checked out the site, And I am trying to decide whether to join up. I was reading through their auctions and other services. Are you a member? And how many of the Stamp community are members… just curious.
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Posted 02/10/2022   12:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gibby01 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some GB Perfins, all have same perfin BCB



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Posted 02/10/2022   04:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommtomm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
http://goscf.com/t/80082#727835

Yes, I'm a member there, but I have to admit, that I just joined the club to get the PDF catalog.
So no activity in GB research or so from my side ...

There certainly are more members here, but I don't now who.

I collect perfins worldwide, and started to build up my GB collection one year ago with little preprint cards cut out from over 7.000(!) catalog pages. I'm still stuck at letter D ... it will surely take me years printing, cutting, and sorting ...
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Posted 02/10/2022   04:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommtomm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
http://goscf.com/t/80082#727849

That's not BCB, but CB/B

Company is Cadbury Bros Ltd, Cocoa and Chocolate Mfrs, Bournville,
Birmingham, also Cadbury-Fry, Export Dept, Bournville

Sent mainly from Birmingham, but also Bootle, (Bo)urnville, Cardi(ff),
Farnborough, Kent, Liverpool, Manchester, Norwich, and
Newcast(le)-on-Tyne

Catalog number could be 0530.02M or one of a few perfin varieties of this company.


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Posted 02/10/2022   5:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gibby01 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the info TommTomm, unfortunately the stamps did not come with any chocolate eggs.
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Posted 01/14/2023   11:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gibby01 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Still slowly getting into this area. Decided to go thru all of the German and Great Britain duplicates I had stowed away long before I knew I would look for Perfins. After sorting thru over 1000 stamps I came up with 2 German perfins and about 35 GB. A small and rough collection but a start. Also found two with black lines I must have previously missed. I think someone just posted that they really don't have any duplicates and I agree with that. Always something interesting to look for and pull out. I'm keeping envelopes full of GB duplicates because I never had the time or energy to check watermarks, maybe one day.
Posting the stamps in no particular order, the pictures also contain the 7 stamps I had posted last year. If any perfin looks upside down that is the way it is on the stamp.









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Posted 01/15/2023   04:07 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Enjoy! I started assembling GB perfins while sorting through duplicates, but decided they weren't for me, and recently sold them on ebay. Didn't make me rich!
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Posted 01/15/2023   4:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The "black lines" are graphite lines. They were a first attempt to use automatic letter facing and sorting machines. The graphite lines were superseded by phosphor bars. For a short period both graphite lines and phosphor bars were used.
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