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Posted 02/19/2025   11:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Surprised they let that California cover go through. Unless it was stamped right in front of the clerk.......
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Posted 02/19/2025   1:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, both covers are from California, but you probably mean the Fruitland cover. Most likely was "it was stamped right in front of the clerk." Unless Mr. Robertson happened to have a pair and two strips of four of Sc 230 with him when he went to the P.O. It does seem an odd selection of stamps.
Little town, slow mail business, addressed to one of the more familiar names in the county, the Tax Collector!
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Posted 02/19/2025   2:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes; all those one cent stamps largely on top of one another.
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Posted 02/19/2025   4:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This Sweden 1979 Gota Canal Booklet pane was engraved by master engraver Czeslaw Slania. These engravings are exquisite, giving the stamp images an almost photographic quality, like the way he captured the reflections in the water. Slania has been called the most prolific stamp engraver of all time. His engravings included over 1,000 stamps for 32 postal services, and designs for over 30 banknotes in 10 different countries.


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Posted 02/19/2025   5:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Captain Stamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Really nice, everyone! Classic Coins, I completely agree that the engraving quality is absolutely gorgeous! And, again, thanks for showing all this!
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Posted 02/20/2025   3:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jr. Ratfish to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Posted 02/20/2025   3:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jr. Ratfish to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This was sold to me as an 11A strip: 91L1L-94L1L. The second stamp (92L1L) has a double transfer.
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Edited by Jr. Ratfish - 02/20/2025 3:10 pm
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Posted 02/20/2025   3:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice strip, Jr. Ratfish. I like the spacing variations. Thanks for showing it.
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Posted 02/20/2025   4:40 pm  Show Profile Check 3193zd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 3193zd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
very nice! Cool Dt at the bottom.
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Posted 02/20/2025   5:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Captain Stamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Really nice strip! But why is there some spacing variations? How is that created?!
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Posted 02/20/2025   5:43 pm  Show Profile Check 3193zd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 3193zd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
looking more at it I see all the 4 center dots also are transferred upward.
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Posted 02/20/2025   6:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jr. Ratfish to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Captain Stamp: I don't know how the spacing variations are created. Maybe just the way the plate was laid out before printing. Hopefully someone can tell us! Honestly, this being my first scan, I hadn't seen how dramatic the spacing difference was. It's amazing what you see in a scan that you can't see with a loupe. I also wasn't aware of the pre-printing paper fold in the lower left corner of the third stamp!

3913zd: I hadn't seen the doubling in the center dots, either. I am trying to upload a better scan, but I'm having some trouble. It's been a day of learning for me!
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Posted 02/20/2025   6:18 pm  Show Profile Check 3193zd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 3193zd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
they are all circles just above the actual dots in the sun bursts in each corner but only on that stamp.
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Posted 02/20/2025   6:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Captain Stamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, scans are wonderful! Glad you've learned today!
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Posted 02/20/2025   9:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I don't know how the spacing variations are created. Maybe just the way the plate was laid out before printing. Hopefully someone can tell us!

The plates used to print the 1851-57 3-cent imperforate stamps were first prepared by incising position dots along the top of the plate and in four rows below.

The design for the 1851-57 3-cent imperforate stamp was transferred from a transfer roll with three design reliefs on it aligned vertically to the plate. With some exceptions, the transfer roll was used to vertically rock (enter) three design entries at a time onto the top three rows of the plate. The top position dots were used to place the side point on the transfer roll onto the plate in the correct position.

However, the position dots on rows 3, 5, 7, and 9 were not used to place the transfer roll for entering the designs on those rows. After the first three rows were entered with the three reliefs on the transfer roll, the top (C) relief on the transfer roll was placed into the bottom of each third-row entry that was already completed to ensure vertical alignment, and only the second and third reliefs on the transfer roll were used to enter the designs below the third row. This method of placing the transfer roll is called the "Guide Reliefing method," and it can be read about in detail in the free U.S. Philatelic Classics Society book linked below.

Back to the question about how spacing variations were created, if one column of design entries was not exactly parallel with the next column near the top of the plate, the columns tended to get more out of alignment when the top relief on the transfer roll was used to align the transfer roll further down on the plate. In other words, the "Guide Reliefing method" helped keep each plate entry aligned with the entry above it, but not consistently spaced from the entries beside it. For this reason, the biggest alignment consistencies are generally found near the bottom of the plate.

The 91L1L-94L1L strip above is, of course, from the bottom row of the plate. The first and second stamps are spaced much closer together than the others.

https://www.uspcs.org/wp-content/up...CS_and_B.pdf

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