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Victorian Numeral Cancel Queries

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Posted 01/27/2023   11:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Boreraig to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again folks,
I don't know how I missed Bairnsdale. Wishful thinking? Can someone please give me some background to numeric cancellations. I have many 2's. At least 4 different. Did the cancels just differ over time when an old machine was replaced?





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Posted 01/27/2023   11:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If I remember correctly there were three different allocations for Victorian numerals.

You'd definitely need the book to get the nuts & bolts of it.
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Posted 01/27/2023   11:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Boreraig to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think I will stop annoying you for a while. I was trying to sort dad's Vic cancellations but there are simply too many. However, these two intrigued me. I am sure they don't say T20 and MCG 11. But does anyone know what they are?


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Posted 01/27/2023   11:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The first one is TPO which stands for Travelling Post Office, ie: a railway cancel.

The second one is Roman numerals, so 1211, but again, fairdinkumstamps will hopefully confirm.

No question is annoying! Please feel free to ask and we'll do our best.
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Posted 01/28/2023   12:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StevieG to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The MCC 11 (1211) is Nhill and looks like the second duplex which is not rated.
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Posted 01/28/2023   01:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks StevieG
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Posted 01/28/2023   01:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Boreraig to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You guys are incredible. Thank you.
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Posted 01/28/2023   9:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Boreraig to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi folks,
You have been so good I thought I would start here. Can anyone give me advice as to where to start looking for KGV help. Almost the first stamp I looked at was weird. It's a penny red, Die 2 but is perforated SO not OS.
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Posted 01/28/2023   9:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Boreraig,

I think these stamps were folded along the perforation lines so that some were punched OS at the same time. This would result in some like yours.

Can anyone confirm?

Wouldn't this give us normal, inverted, reversed, and inverted reversed punctures?
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Posted 01/28/2023   9:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't recall ever seeing any.
I'll check my database.

I see no reference.
OS Official Punctures
Small OS
Introduced late 1913
12 hole "O" 11 Hole "S"
8.5 x 15.5mm
All stamps 1913 to 1933 all punctured thus

No reference to Puncture varieties.

I agree Bobby, if folded, then this type of variety would exist.
Maybe Brusden White elaborates?
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Edited by rod222 - 01/28/2023 10:03 pm
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Posted 01/28/2023   10:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
PS:
A small amount of Canberra Commemoratives and the 3d Airmail were punctured with the 12 holes.

(For use of Parliamentarians for the opening of Parliament in 1927)

Bib: Tony Pollard 2008-2017

Note: There are "OS" punctured stamps from 1933
(OS without "NSW") (Asymetrical OS over NSW )
However the punctures are slanted (italicised)
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Edited by rod222 - 01/28/2023 10:17 pm
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Posted 01/28/2023   10:18 pm  Show Profile Check 64idgaf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 64idgaf to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Can someone please give me some background to numeric cancellations. I have many 2's. At least 4 different. Did the cancels just differ over time when an old machine was replaced?


There were many Geelong hammers, simply metal heads on wooden handles that wore out and were replaced from time-to-time.

Geelong is my home town, these are examples I hold of the various Geelong cancels.





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Posted 01/28/2023   10:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

OS Puncture.

The only other (Long shot) is the OS NSW Hybrid
It is the only other 11 pin "S"

Bib: Australian Official Perfins
Roy Gault with ackn to David Andersen and John Mathews

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Posted 01/28/2023   10:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I take from the note in Gibbons that the 11-pin "S" has to have the "NSW" as well?

The "OS" with a 12-pin "S" is NSW state service.
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Posted 01/28/2023   11:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The one thing I did overlook with Boreraig's stamp is that the OS may be forged.
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