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Can It Be A Re Entry Or It's Just Over Inked?

 
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Posted 02/21/2025   8:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Captain Stamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello everyone!
I have a question about this stamp: can it be a re entry? Look at the left, there's a blue straight line, and I wonder if it's a re entry. I know that a lot of the stamps from this issue are over inked, so is that just over inked? Thanks,

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Posted 02/21/2025   10:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is not a re-entry, it is also not overinking.
The stamp looks like a plate III, and quite a few of the 100 stamps of this plate show the line in this area


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Posted 02/21/2025   10:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Captain Stamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Peter! I thought it was plate II, because of the gap in upper right corner, and it's a characteristic of plate II, right?
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Posted 02/22/2025   11:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Captain.
I can probably tell you the plate and maybe the plate position if you can send a better picture, preferably a scan on a black background
I have pictures of every stamp of all seven plates so that helps in IDing


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Posted 02/22/2025   5:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Captain Stamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can't scan with a better dpi, but I can on a black background. I have a question, which reference do you use to know the plate position of these stamps? I would like to have it and use it too. I'll send you a scan picture on a black background soon.
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Posted 02/22/2025   7:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Captain Stamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's the scan picture on black background.


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Posted 02/22/2025   8:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the picture. It may be a while, but I will get back to you.
My main reference is a set of books : "Nederland 1852" by G,C, van Balen Blanken en Bert Buurman. Issued around 1968
These books were originally issued by J.L van Dieten, Tournooiveld 2, Den Haag, Nederland
I have no idea if these are still available. but you might find them on the internet. There are 16 books for all regular plates and loose leaf pages for plate 1a.


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Edited by Petert4522 - 02/22/2025 9:12 pm
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Posted 02/22/2025   9:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Captain Stamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Peter!
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Posted 02/25/2025   11:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK Captain, here is my verdict! I think it is plate III, position 83.
One of the convincing features is a small scratch between the upper right frame lines. Almost not visible on your stamp because of the cancel.
Also, the van Balen Blanken / Bert Buurman book shows the upper right corner closed as to where yours is open. I believe that to be an inking
problem. All of the small scratches on the bottom are shown in the book.
Hope this helps you,


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Posted 02/25/2025   12:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Captain Stamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you really much for your dedication! Hope you had fun to plate it!
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