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Posted 07/28/2023   5:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I had another look.

The stamp on the left is Freeman's 16 Wellington 3R16.



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Posted 07/28/2023   7:51 pm  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bobby De La Rue, the stamp you have shown above is Freeman's 91 of Tabulam, showing that the rays do not correspond with those of the blue stamp. The difference is especially evident for the lower rays.

Hugh had that stamp as Wellington in his first edition but corrected it to Tabulam in the second edition.
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Edited by fairdinkumstamps - 07/28/2023 9:51 pm
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Posted 07/28/2023   10:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Quite right FDS

Hugh sold me a 91 Tabulam years ago but it appears it's a 16 Wellington! Confirmation bias at it's best

An 1883 Wellington cover extract below for comparison.



I'll have to double check my 16 Wellington as it's probably a 91......

EDIT: Nope, I have two 16s and no 91
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Edited by Bobby De La Rue - 07/28/2023 10:40 pm
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Posted 07/28/2023   11:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Aussie Al to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys I had no Wellington or Tabulam so all good .
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Posted 07/29/2023   12:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Aussie Al to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think its 1246 but .
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Posted 07/29/2023   12:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Aussie Al to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
529 or 629



Thanks again theres some I don't trust my call on .
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Posted 07/29/2023   01:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Aussie Al,

The second one is a 529.

The first one gives every impression of being a 1246 but it's different to the image in Freeman's book.

The numeral below was auctioned by Phoenix Auctions, auction 2164, lot 818. Listed as NNS (number never seen). Hammer $170



Looks like you have a nice find

Let's wait for Fairdinkumstamps though, because I'd like his opinion on this one.
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Posted 07/29/2023   02:57 am  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Bobby De La Rue that these are not the same font 1246 shown by Hugh Freeman in his book, The Numeral Cancellations of New South Wales.

The font more closely matches 1240. Unfortunately, I don't have any examples of either that may shed further light.
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Posted 07/29/2023   03:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My 1240 for a comparison.



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Posted 10/09/2023   03:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This looks interesting
A lot of bars
No 1?
I'm not sure
Would appreciate any info
Thanks
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Posted 10/09/2023   04:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Pshann,

That's a Sydney dumb obliterator.

If I've correctly identified it, then according to Granfield, it was in use from 1854 to 1857.

Could you please confirm the stamp has a double lined 1 watermark?
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Posted 10/09/2023   05:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok
This is the best pic I could get
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Posted 10/09/2023   05:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bobby
The date range you espouse seems unreal.
Where do you reference?
Thanks
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Posted 10/09/2023   06:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bobby
I can't find "granfield "
Can you provide more information
Thx
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Posted 10/09/2023   3:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Peter Granfield wrote a monograph in 2013 on the early cancellations of Sydney. It greatly expanded on the information contained in White's 'Postal History of NSW'.

Why does the date range seem unreal? I can see the watermark, which was introduced at the beginning of 1854.
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