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Album Review: United States Albums

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Posted 03/02/2014   10:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add southpaw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
add www. or http://www to it. I can't seem to post the link without it being truncated.

Yes, eventually I would like to sell pages. Right now though I'm making them for my own collection. It takes quite a bit of time to create pages with pics. Thought I would weigh in on the binder discussion 'cause nobody seems happy with any specific stamp binders it seems.

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Posted 03/02/2014   11:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add southpaw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are my thoughts on page design:

1. I like a more "traditional" look for my classic pages. I've seen some absolutely beautiful 19th century pages. Nice typography has really gone out the window with the advent of digital technology. I'd like to capture some of that old-world flavor in the pages.

2. I'd like the pages to "breathe". Too many stamps on a single page makes it difficult to focus on the beauty of the stamps.

3. A generous bounding box for the stamps. This is very important for those who use mounts. I think most advanced collectors do. Use a faint bounding box line. Mine use a dotted .4 pt line. Heavy lines distract from the stamps and unless they are covered completely by a mount can make the page look sloppy.

4. At least a few pictures, in B&W not color. Color only makes the pages look modern, dramatically increases cost, and makes it more difficult for the stamps you have to be seen. The color fidelity you are going to get is will be hit or miss anyway.

5. Put the information about the stamps, above and below the stamps so it can be seen at all times.

6. Add some tidbits of information and period graphics if possible. My CSA pages will have some wonderful public domain Civil War engravings for instance.

7. I use 60lb cover stock for my collection pages. There's nothing worse than a flimsy page full of mounts and stamps.

The thing is, none of these really cost any extra, except for the cover stock vs text stock. That's pennies though. Attention to detail is what counts. Attached is the first two of the Proprietary Match Revenue. So what is your "wish list" when it comes to how pages should look?



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Posted 03/03/2014   07:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike33 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Those pages are beautiful Southpaw
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Posted 03/03/2014   07:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Southpaw, you hit a homerun with these pages! Beautifully done!

Brian
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Posted 03/03/2014   07:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add southpaw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the kind words! If anyone is interested, once I get the rest of Private Proprietary revenue done, I'll post the link to download the 8.5 x 11 pages. These will be "beginner" pages with only spaces for face different stamps. Not all the 4 different paper types.
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Posted 03/03/2014   08:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add apastuszak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As someone who makes pages and posts them on the Internet for free, I have to say...

I'm not worthy...
I'm not worthy...
I'm not worthy...
I'm not worthy...
I'm not worthy...
I'm not worthy...

I'd love your critique of my amateurish effort.
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Free Ukrainian Stamp Album and modified Mystic Stamp Album Pages - http://www.stamphacks.com
Ukrainian Philatelic and Numismatic Society Member #1212: http://www.upns.org
Eire Philatelic Association Member #2869: http://www.eirephilatelicassoc.org/
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Posted 03/03/2014   08:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add southpaw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi apastuszak

I'm new here, so I didn't make the connection. You have a great blog! I hadn't visited it lately, but I've read every word of it in the past as I've searched the net over the years for pages I like. Your pages are great, especially for modern stamps. I love your choice of League Gothic as one of your typefaces. I use it all the time. Your pages have a nice asymmetric balance too which is tricky to achieve with the myriad of stamp sizes and proportions. My interests are classics so my pages are designed to be appropriate for classic stamps; they tend to be more decorative and symmetrical.

When I design for my clients, the first thing is to listen intently to what they want. It's not about me as a designer. I can offer my opinion if I think what they ask for is not quite appropriate for what they are trying to accomplish, but in the end they are the boss. If you want to see what I do for my day job go to www.southpaw-design.com

BTW - I like your suggestion for modifying style sheets to "remove" Scott numbers. Right now I use layers in InDesign to control that info, but style sheets may be even easier! Thanks for the tip.
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Posted 03/03/2014   09:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicalStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Southpaw,


Beautiful pages. Very well done.

Do you plan to sell pages for a world wide collection for the Classic period?

I for one would be interested..

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Posted 03/03/2014   09:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add apastuszak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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BTW - I like your suggestion for modifying style sheets to "remove" Scott numbers. Right now I use layers in InDesign to control that info, but style sheets may be even easier! Thanks for the tip.


I tried to do it in Scribus originally using layers and found it to be quite the PITA, because you can't align and distribute across layers. Plus you can't group stuff across multiple layers.

The style sheet proved to be far easier.

The only thing I wish I did differently on the Ukrainian pages, other than the ink wasting header, is the point size of the descriptions. It's currently 9 pt. I wish I had made it 8 pt or 7 pt.
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Free Ukrainian Stamp Album and modified Mystic Stamp Album Pages - http://www.stamphacks.com
Ukrainian Philatelic and Numismatic Society Member #1212: http://www.upns.org
Eire Philatelic Association Member #2869: http://www.eirephilatelicassoc.org/
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Posted 03/03/2014   09:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
http://www.hi-testdesign.com/US_Sta...e_NEVADA.pdf

this link will work for the pages
Tom
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Posted 03/03/2014   09:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your flag sheet page is certainly not amateurish by any standards.
Tom
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Posted 03/03/2014   10:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Southpaw,
Good job. I've mentioned this in the other Steiner thread but since you said that you are using InDesign...

For obvious reasons Amos and other catalog/album publishers are going to protect their IP (intellectual properties) and the market they enjoy with their products. Anyone who desires to publically publish (for sale or given away) any kind of album pages with their proprietary catalog numbers will be infringing on their rights.

One work-around is to simply afford a generic opportunity for the user to 'plug in' his/her own numbering system, whatever that might be. InDesign supports this with the inclusion of 'data fields' in the document which are tied to an external data source. In other words, the document can have catalog number placeholders. These are tied to a data source such as a Access/SQL database or XML file. When the PDF is opened, it will look for the external data source file to populate the catalog number fields. If it is not there, it will simply leave them blank.

A simple template of the data source file can be included for user to get started (i.e. a sample MS database .mdb file). If the user wants to populate it with Scott numbers or SG numbers they certainly can; or they may wish to use their own numbering system. The only real requirement is that they have to make sure they follow the template that is included and that file must be located in a directory where the PDF knows to look for it.

I played with this a little and it took me less than 10 minutes to build a form in InDesign that would read catalog numbers from a stand-alone .MDB file.
don
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Posted 03/03/2014   10:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add apastuszak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I tried to get Amos to license their catalog numbers to me for my Ukrainian stamp album. Amos will never do it. What it basically comes down to is that Amos makes a catalog for every country on the planet. They consider every catalog on the planet a competitor, and won't license the numbers out, except to Mystic, because Mystic is one of their biggest advertisers.
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Free Ukrainian Stamp Album and modified Mystic Stamp Album Pages - http://www.stamphacks.com
Ukrainian Philatelic and Numismatic Society Member #1212: http://www.upns.org
Eire Philatelic Association Member #2869: http://www.eirephilatelicassoc.org/
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Posted 03/03/2014   11:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Southpaw:

Nice contributions and good resurrection of a thread

Kirk
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Posted 03/03/2014   12:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I tried to get Amos to license their catalog numbers to me for my Ukrainian stamp album. Amos will never do it. What it basically comes down to is that Amos makes a catalog for every country on the planet. They consider every catalog on the planet a competitor, and won't license the numbers out, except to Mystic, because Mystic is one of their biggest advertisers.


Understood, that is why the solution I suggest will work. As a publisher of the pages, you would only be adding the capability to add catalog numbers. Users can add whatever numbers they see fit. If they choose to add Scott catalog numbers that has nothing to do with the guy who publishes the pages.
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