What Are These Things On The Back Of My Stamp?

Hello everyone!
I really wonder what are these things on the back of my stamp. (I'm talking about the blue one and the pink one) Can someone tell me? And is that necessary to show a picture of the front? Thanks,

CS

I believe they are called "owners marks". just in case stamps were stolen.

http://goscf.com/t/59260

Trodent

Thanks for the link! The marks on the back of my stamp looks really "automated', you understand? You think that this could be an owners mark, and I think that it's possible, but it still does not looks handmade.

I endlessly advise people to use the search function of this forum more but few seem to do so. It is a massively valuable resource that covers legions of topics and questions that come up over and over again. Try going there first next time you have a question.

http://goscf.com/t/64672#:~:text=An...0of%20stamps.

Thanks, rogdcam! I'll do this, next time!

It is well worth it Captain. IMO it is one of the greatest resources for this hobby on the internet and over the course of my eight years as a member of this forum I have seen countless topics started that have been explored in great detail previously. The best part is that these historical posts often include input from members that are no longer with us but live on through the knowledge they shared. Don't get me wrong, fresh discussion is awesome, can compliment the old and at times provide even more facts and insight. It would just be gratifying to see the SCF search resource used more.

For those readers who don't click into all the links provided above, there are *two* major categories of these back-side markings.
1. Owner's marks.
2. Expertising marks.
Yes, it woud be useful to see the front of the stamp. The value or complexity of identification will often to point toward one or the other.

The often referenced stamp experizing site:

https://www.filatelia.fi/experts/index.html

Rodgcam, I completely agree with you! I recently remarked that this site is a real source, when you read some old posts and replies!

Thanks for the link, Bobby de la rue!

John Becker, I'll show you a scan of my stamp soon.

John Becker, here's a picture of the front. Unfortunately, one of the owners mark/expertising mark, is really visible on the front and leaving a small blue streak.

It is an owner's mark since an expertizer's mark would rarely bleed through. That would be an embarrassment since it reduces the value of the stamp a great deal.

The very nasty mark at the bottom looks to me like an apostrophe followed by 22. If it's an owner's mark, the vandal ought to be banned from owning stamps.

The mark at the top looks to me like a monogram, handwritten with a very fine nib, but I can't make out any letters.

But what stamp is it? There are three possible shades, each of which has its own distinctive paper, and its own distinctive price. Scarlet-vermilion, orange-vermilion or rose-lake? Colours on the screen can't be trusted, but it looks rose-lake to me, which makes it the cheap one, not the very expensive one or the horrifically expensive one.

If it looks clearly rose-lake and not vermilion to you in good daylight but not direct sunlight, it would look clearly rose-lake to anybody else, so there would be no need for expertisation. It would then follow that even the discreet mark at the top would almost certainly be an owner's not an expert's.

Is it possible that the pencil mark at the bottom is a dealer's price, representing two shillings or dollars or whatever? And there's some pencil writing above it which I can't read. Partly erased?

Yes, it's the cheapest one. Thanks for all these information, that helps a lot! I agree with the fact that there's surely no expertising mark. The colour of my stamp looks almost exactly like the same in person. It's only a little brighter in person, I think.




Yes, I think too.

Just my opinion, but some thing doesn't look right.

Can you provide a better scan?

There is a blemish on the S of John's
The O of FOUR, the interior hole is narrow
The Left 4, the tail is not pronounced enough.
The LA in LAND looks connected, there should be a space
The E of Postage
The large margins. Don't usually see it on this issue
The bottom of the letters in PENCE, do not line up. The N looks shorter

https://stampforgeries.com/forged-s...1862-page-2/

any experts out there?

Trodent

Wait, can it be a good quality forgery of Jean de Sperati? There's a pencil writing on the back of the stamp, and it's partly erased, as pjr, remarked. Can it be Jean de Sperati's signature that a collector has tried to erase to let people believe that it's genuine?I'm probably not right, but is that possible?

Keep asking questions. Collectors of older Canada are not thick on the ground. Someone who swims in this pool every day may recognize marks. But not if you don't ask.

I'd agree that what we see are more likely to be owner's marks rather than expertizer's marks.

As for the search, rogdcam is correct that there is an enormous wealth of information to be found. The first several years of this site were epic.

You might need to first ask a question in order to get good search terms. Until you got a few answers, you would not have known to search for "owner's mark" or "expertizer's mark." Once you have a few terms, you can dig for gold. "That's gold, Jerry! Gold!"

If you happen to get a quick answer, you may be able to use that answer to search for more information, and that is worth doing. Don't be shy to ask that question, though.