Chatgpt's Philatelic Capabilities

I'm using ChatGPT 4o. Working with it has given me a sense for what it is good at and what it is not good at. It has made mistakes on identifying stamps on cover. It has made some basic math mistakes which LLMs are notorious for. It cannot be trusted to figure out usages. It's stamp identification capabilities can be helpful in some cases, but you need to double check.

Those that say, "Oh no - it made a mistake! It's useless!" or "I hate it because I take pride in doing things the hard way," or, "I hate it because it is going to ruin the next generation." are missing out. It is just a new tool that can enhance your collecting experience.

I think ChatGPT give good advice on trusted vs untrusted places online to learn about stamps - what do you think?

Me: what are some trusted stamp collecting resources on the internet? Are there some that known to be less reliable?

ChatGPT said:

Here are some trusted and widely recognized resources for stamp collecting on the internet, along with notes on sources that are less reliable:
Trusted Stamp Collecting Resources
Reference Websites and Catalogs

Scott Catalog Online
Website: Scott Catalog
Features: The definitive resource for identifying and valuing stamps in the U.S. and worldwide.
Reliability: Widely trusted among collectors and dealers.

Stamp Smarter
Website: Stamp Smarter
Features: Resources for identifying stamps, plating guides, and educational materials.
Reliability: Highly regarded by philatelists for its research tools and guides.

StampPlating.com (Specific to plating 3¢ Washington stamps)
Website: Stamp Plating
Features: Specialized resource for plating 1851-1857 3¢ Washington issues.
Reliability: Highly detailed and specialized, used by serious U.S. classics collectors.

Linn's Stamp News
Website: Linn's Stamp News
Features: News, articles, and guides related to philately.
Reliability: A staple resource for collectors and dealers for decades.

American Philatelic Society (APS)
Website: APS
Features: Membership, expertizing services, stamp identification, and educational resources.
Reliability: The leading organization for stamp collectors in the U.S.

The Postal History Foundation
Website: Postal History Foundation
Features: Resources for postal history research, including archives and exhibits.
Reliability: Great for researching covers and postal history.

Online Marketplaces

HipStamp
Website: HipStamp
Features: Large marketplace for buying and selling stamps with seller ratings.
Reliability: Generally trustworthy, but exercise caution with new sellers.

eBay
Website: eBay
Features: Extensive listings of stamps and covers.
Reliability: Highly variable—research sellers' feedback, and verify authenticity independently.

Delcampe
Website: Delcampe
Features: International marketplace for stamps and collectibles.
Reliability: Trusted by collectors, especially for European stamps, but still buyer beware.

Educational Forums and Communities

The Stamp Forum
Website: Stamp Forum
Features: Active community of philatelists discussing identification, valuation, and more.
Reliability: High-quality discussions with knowledgeable contributors.

Stamp Community Forum
Website: Stamp Community
Features: One of the largest online forums for stamp collecting and research.
Reliability: Valuable for both beginners and experts; discussions are often in-depth.

Stamp World
Website: Stamp World
Features: An online catalog and community space.
Reliability: Decent resource, though less detailed than professional catalogs.

Less Reliable Resources

Generic Auction Sites or Non-Specialist Platforms
Examples: Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace (non-collector-specific groups)
Issues: Risk of misrepresentation or lack of knowledge from sellers.
Advice: Avoid unless the seller has a strong reputation or you can authenticate items.

Low-Quality Private Blogs
Examples: Small blogs with unverifiable information or no authoritative sources.
Issues: May contain errors, oversimplifications, or unsupported claims.
Advice: Cross-check information with trusted resources.

Social Media (Unmoderated Groups)
Examples: Random Facebook or Reddit groups.
Issues: Variable quality of advice, ranging from expert insights to complete misinformation.
Advice: Stick to moderated or well-known philatelic groups.

Tips for Evaluating Resources

Check Expertise: Look for resources affiliated with established philatelic organizations.
Cross-Reference: Always verify critical information with multiple sources.
Beware of Scams: On marketplaces, watch for too-good-to-be-true deals or sellers without a track record.

If you're researching a specific area of philately, I can recommend more tailored resources. Let me know!

There is a difference between using chatGPT as a crutch versus a tool AND knowing the difference. The posts here have shown both facets.
If one has to spend as much time fact-checking and correcting chatGPT, then ... it speaks for itself.

ChatGPT thinks highly of your advice @John Becker (and others), (as do I).

Here's a more comprehensive list of trusted contributors on the Stamp Community Forum (SCF) who are widely regarded for their expertise and helpfulness. This expanded list includes both the names I mentioned earlier and additional contributors known for their valuable input.
1. John Becker

Specialization: Postal history and philatelic literature.
Why Trusted: John is a methodical researcher with a deep knowledge of historical postal systems and philatelic resources. His objective, fact-based approach makes his posts a reliable source for both novice and experienced collectors.
Key Topics: U.S. classics, postal routes, and literature recommendations.

2. 51studebaker (Don)

Specialization: Forum moderation, general philately.
Why Trusted: As a long-time moderator, Don ensures a respectful and productive environment on SCF. His clear explanations and consistent involvement make him a key figure in the community.
Key Topics: Broad philatelic questions, especially U.S. stamps and general collecting advice.

3. revcollector

Specialization: U.S. revenue stamps and fiscal philately.
Why Trusted: With over 9,500 posts, revcollector is a go-to expert for revenue stamp collectors. His detailed answers and ability to identify obscure issues are highly appreciated.
Key Topics: Revenue stamps, tax-paid stamps, and Cinderella issues.

4. GeoffHa

Specialization: British philately and worldwide stamps.
Why Trusted: Based in the U.K., GeoffHa offers a wealth of information on British Commonwealth issues and international philately. His posts often provide historical context and technical analysis.
Key Topics: British stamps, plating, and worldwide issues.

5. rogdcam

Specialization: General philately.
Why Trusted: With over 11,000 posts, rogdcam has become a respected voice in the SCF community. He offers practical advice and often helps with identification and valuation.
Key Topics: Worldwide stamps, general questions, and beginner advice.

6. PostmasterGS

Specialization: German philately, including postal history and occupied territories.
Why Trusted: Known for detailed explanations and high-quality reference materials, PostmasterGS is a leading expert on German-area stamps and postal history.
Key Topics: German Empire, WWII-era philately, and post-war issues.

7. Rod222

Specialization: Australian philately and worldwide stamps.
Why Trusted: Rod222 is active in discussions about Australian stamps, worldwide classics, and thematic collections. He shares extensive reference materials and personal research.
Key Topics: Australian philately, thematic collections, and classic worldwide issues.

8. Philb

Specialization: U.S. classics and plating.
Why Trusted: Philb is known for in-depth knowledge of early U.S. issues, especially Washington-Franklin series stamps. His contributions often delve into technical plating and identification challenges.
Key Topics: U.S. 19th-century classics, plating, and specialized varieties.

9. txstamp

Specialization: U.S. postal history and postmarks.
Why Trusted: With a focus on U.S. postal history, txstamp provides clear and detailed explanations, often citing archival materials or historical records.
Key Topics: Postmarks, covers, and postal routes.

10. Perf12

Specialization: Philatelic authentication and forgery detection.
Why Trusted: Perf12 offers technical advice on spotting forgeries, altered stamps, and other deceptive practices. His posts emphasize using tools like UV lights and magnifiers.
Key Topics: Authentication, forgeries, and expertizing.

11. Puzzler

Specialization: Beginner advice and community engagement.
Why Trusted: Puzzler is approachable and patient, offering guidance tailored to newcomers. They help demystify complex philatelic topics in a simple, accessible way.
Key Topics: General collecting, beginner FAQs, and U.S. commemoratives.

12. Dudley

Specialization: Worldwide stamps and thematic collections.
Why Trusted: Dudley has a broad knowledge base and frequently assists with identification and thematic queries. His posts are informative and supportive.
Key Topics: Worldwide classics, thematic stamps, and cataloging systems.

Tips for Engaging with SCF Experts

Ask Clear Questions:
Provide detailed images and context for your queries to get the most helpful responses.

Search Their Posts:
Use SCF's search function to find threads by these contributors for topics of interest.

Acknowledge Contributions:
Thanking contributors for their help fosters a positive community and encourages further participation.

Much amused! Thanks.

Having read literally thousands of pages of 19th century cursive handwriting over the last 2+ years, I have to say I'm getting the hang of it

At first this GIGO related to the quality of input as it relates to output, HOWEVER AI adds its own garbage due to the biases of the software writers creating the opaque system software. Further more AI itself has one known issue, which is not to say there are not other issues known, which is that AI use tends to amplify software bias. This can produce output garbage which is not directly related to garbage input.

What is the real fear here is that once AI creates answers above the reasoning, intelligence and knowledge levels of a significant number of folks, those folks will be unable to discern the problems within the AI answer and simply think what they are reading is gospel.

Another downside to AI is that it cannot discern the intent of the question nor the intent of the person creating the question; for example, when asked to help plan a terrorist attack, which of course it was used to do at least once this year--so far..

Edited oi add an h to an as.

Interesting thread. I've enjoyed reading everyone's comments and pretty much agree with both sides of the question. I just signed up and to have a bit of fun I asked it to draw me a picture of a postman delivering mail in Paris in 1920 . I never expected anything this nice . I got the Postman, the mail truck, a mail box and the Eiffel Tower. This one will definitely be added to the title page of my French stamp collection.

So many errors in that ridiculous picture.

I'm also blown away by the OP's results. Here's how to become a cover deal in 2025 with zero philatelic knowledge and very little effort,

1. Purchase a bulk lot of WW covers from the likes of Dutch Country or Rasdale

2. Run them through document sheet scanner

3. Run the scans through ChatGPT with same prompt as OP (or maybe even a prompt more tailored to selling on eBay. I'm sure it could come with a good title which fits ebay listing requirements, for example).

4. List them all on eBay with the ChatGPT response as the description, auction starting at $0.79

Let the market sort out the value and identify any mistakes. Have a generous return policy ("Seller pays return shipping"). The detailed description will help drive keyword searches to these lots (including maybe some details which are not often mentioned by human describers). I'd bet one person could crank out 1000 listings with very detailed descriptions per day.

I also do wonder what ChatGPT would have to say about stamp album contents--many ebay dealers such as Pavstamps and NobleSpirit list albums with every photos of every page but very little description. I'm sure there are hidden gems in some of those albums which don't get many views because they don't show up in search and not many people have the time to go through every picture. It could also be an opportunity for buyers.

Sounds awesome! I can see AI describing that odd solo Prexie usage now or picking up on that double transfer or realizing the significance of the postmark date. Sounds like a plan.

Can't decide if this AI is just a advance new upgrade to the card catalog that was in the library .

Sounds like the the mid-1970s for me when we started playing around with algorithms to trade in the Futures Market . Yea the computer could tell you how to trade . Spend years playing with those signals until I realize it was not better than my pencil and a piece of graph paper .

Agreed, but it is a pretty nice picture, even if it is a fantasy.

I'd like to see one from rural New South Wales circa 1870

And thus let AI create your reputation and your business reputation - or lack thereof. LOL It might enhance throughput, but it won't build your name in a positive manner.

Having a fair amount of experience with AI (including ChatGPT), I offer the following: AI is very good at generalizations but often poor at specifics. To get the most out of AI, one must be an SME ("subject matter expert") in whatever you are asking AI. I want to echo Reagan here and say, "Trust, but verify," but I do not think we are there yet. Everything must be verified.