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Two GB Machin Oddities That Have Me Puzzled

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Posted 11/25/2024   1:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Posted 11/25/2024   2:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It may have already been said but doesn't seem to be acknowledged that on the stamps in this thread, including the latest JustFella stamp, the white design elements are not inked but rather are the white of the paper. In other words, the white areas such as the numbers have no coating of ink. The rest of the non-white portions of the stamps have a coating of ink. Obviously, the non-inked paper retains the ink differently from the inked surfaces.

If anyone commenting does not believe this is just cancellation ink, could they explain in detail how these stamps came to be printed in discreet areas when produced and why?
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Posted 11/25/2024   2:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rogdcam,
Indeed yes! I said it halfway down the first page, but like the cancel on the printed areas of the OPs stamp, it didn't "take"!

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19p, It is just the ink. It is clear there is a difference in the cancelling ink absorbtivity of the blank paper versus the areas of full coverage by orange ink, with decent ink coverage in the various partially-shaded areas of the Queen's head. Some stamps have such a slick ink as to take almost no ink - or to have it smudged-off before it dries.
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Posted 11/25/2024   3:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
John - Apparently the answer is unpopular!
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Posted 11/25/2024   3:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And yet, the 24p a few posts back demonstrates the same effect beautifully. Oh well, you do what you can, and move on.

Tangentially, how many FDC ceremonies have we attended in which the clerk has a brand new ink pad which won't print on the stamp or dry quickly? One must bring a blotter book to have any chance of getting and preserving a decent cancel until it dries.
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Posted 11/26/2024   02:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ringo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The numerals are shaped holes in the printed design. The numerals are not printed on. They are voids.

Therefore there is no printing plate or stamper with just the number on, which could possibly have been inked up and used in the manufacture if the stamp.
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Posted 11/27/2024   12:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Butchie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again for all the great info & apologies that I forgot to start a subscription to keep up. Have patience with this old fart. I'm not a newbe at collecting but very much so about the technical aspect. Started at 17 now 83 and have never thrown away an undamaged stamp. Social media is not one of my strong points.

These issues intrigue me. Some of this brings more questions for me based on what I see physically than total understanding. Like why didn't the 1 get filled in too and under my 500 power mike it looks obvious that the cancel ink seems to be a different color & over the ink of the 9. If someone would be interested in viewing it in person just for fun I would be glad to mail it for a promise of posting more info, a franking surprise & half of the millions it's likely to be worth Rofl.
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Posted 12/14/2024   12:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Butchie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To all who may be following this thread I hope this is a better picture of the nine.
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Posted 12/14/2024   1:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Butchie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry again. Didn't realize there was a second page. Forgive this old fable mind.
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Posted 01/12/2025   12:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Butchie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well here it is a new year & I have a fresh pot of crow cooking. I'll eat it latter. I found another example of the cancel ink filling in the valve numbers & I see now that y'all are correct that it seems too suck the ink in & the white showing thru makes it appear to be a different color. Thanks for all your comments.

To John decker I have no idea where I have that other stamp stored but in that case an additional numeral was added making it totally different. Drove me crazy wondering why that value wasn't listed. Lol.
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Posted 01/12/2025   2:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for getting back to us with a further example and closure of this issue. I believe that future similar questions will be referencing this thread with the excellent scans and discussion.
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