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When Is A Cover Collectable?

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Israel
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Posted 07/24/2023   7:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob Roy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You're right, "Kántorjánosi is a village in Szabolcs-Szatmár-Bereg county". I dismissed it because it's also a surname and first name and I didn't expect a village to be called so, just like I don't expect you to say "Hi, I live in Selma Lagerlöf".
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Posted 07/24/2023   7:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Everything is collectible to somebody. Ordinary damaged covers may be from someone's hometown or be postmarked on their birthday or......

Some are hoarders and keep everything. Some collect used Q-Tips. To each their own.

There is no right answer as to what makes a cover collectible.
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Posted 07/24/2023   7:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Baltija to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I didn't expect a village to be called so, just like I don't expect you to say "Hi, I live in Selma Lagerlöf"


Indeed, that would be a weird statement. But, if I lived in Norway it would be perfectly correct to say that I live in "Hell".
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Posted 07/24/2023   8:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Baltija to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Ordinary damaged covers may be from someone's hometown or be postmarked on their birthday or......


If that's the only one you've got - I can understand your argument.

In the 1990s I had very good contacts to a company that received a lot of mail. One postal bag of emptied covers every fortnight was common and I picked them up for two to three years. That was an extreme number of ordinary covers ... and that's how kiloware is made.
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Edited by Baltija - 07/24/2023 8:09 pm
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Canada
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Posted 07/24/2023   8:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nar1123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice cover Batilja, very interesting. Stamps and writings put everywhere on the page! It is special!

For me, a nice cover had pretty writings, clear hand cancel and the message included. And if there is something "special" it is better! Like this one : 3 inches width envelope, and cancel with date and time but without the year. I wont scan the letter because it is fragile, but the people were happy after meeting and hoping to see soon!



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Posted 07/24/2023   8:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
nar1123,
Your cover is from 1906. The year date is outside the dial.
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Canada
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Posted 07/24/2023   9:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nar1123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow thanks you! Scan helps a lot, I never noticed it, so used for date inside the circle!
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Posted 07/25/2023   12:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Topic or theme collectors can find otherwise ordinary covers collectible due to the subject matter of the stamp or other cover attributes. "Transportation" would cover two of the covers, airplanes, one. Philatelic exhibitions several as well. Postally used coils on international express (special delivery) mail is a specialty area that would bring interest to the first cover. Uprated postal stationery interests others. Sometimes it is not the stamps but the added labels, postal etiquettes, attract the attention, here with three copies of one and two copies of another when only one of each would be sufficient.

Also remember that what is common to you, incoming mail to Israel or outgoing mail from Romania are not as common for a collector living in Japan, South Africa or Chile.


Edited for English, added an "e" removed an "r" and I am done.
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Edited by Parcelpostguy - 07/25/2023 11:49 pm
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Posted 07/25/2023   06:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Baltija to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Also remember that what is common to you, incoming mail to Israel or outgoing mail from Romania are not as common for a collector living in Japan,r South Africa or Chile.


Perhaps I should try to tell my wife this the next time I receive a huge package of old covers to add to the pile.
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Posted 07/25/2023   06:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob Roy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Point taken, Parcelpostguy. I should be more careful with the remaining covers that I have.
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France
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Posted 08/14/2023   06:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add antoin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A loaded envelope UAR (Egypte)
The United Arab Republic was created in 1958 by the union of Egypt and Syria and then, for a short time, Yemen. The union disappeared in 1961 but Egypt continued to be called under this official name until 1971.
I can't read the date of the postmarks but one of the stamps is dated 1964, so after the end of the union.
The envelope, heavily laden with stamps and annotations, is an object of curiosity.
What do you think of it?


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Posted 08/14/2023   06:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The cover has two US meter marks. It looks like the UAR stamps were added after the meter marks had been applied. The cachet "Pray for J.F.K" suggests it was created after 22 November 1963.

The item does not really hide its philatelic nature. However, it does raise the question whether it is a philatelic fabrication.
The strongest indication, I think, is the stamp at the lower right on the front. That is a cancelled stamp that was added. The cancel on the envelope does not match that on the stamp at all. Overall, I would have doubts about the cancels tying stamps to the envelope.
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Edited by NSK - 08/14/2023 06:42 am
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Posted 08/14/2023   07:19 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder if the sender simply re-used an envelope previously received from the US, hence the US meters? The large red address label may hide a previous address.
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Posted 08/14/2023   07:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It does look like it, Some stamps look tied as well. It is a strange item.
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Posted 08/14/2023   07:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Whomever created the cover was prolific since there are large numbers of these sold on Ebay. Could find no detailed info on the creator.
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