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Curiosities From The B E P Certified Proof Collection

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Posted 10/12/2021   01:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essay_proof to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you GregAlex. Email is enabled, but as I'm a new member that feature is disabled. If you would, please send the file to Eric Jackson and ask him to forward it to me. Thanks again.
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Posted 10/12/2021   08:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1typesetter to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Greg,

Could I also get a copy of the search tool please?

Thanks,
Tom
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Posted 10/12/2021   6:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GregAlex to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Email sent.
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Posted 10/13/2021   7:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GregAlex to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just wanted to post this photo that Peter Huntoon shared with me, which appeared in a 2011 US Specialist article. This sheet is housed with the BEP Certified Proofs but most certainly did not get scanned because it was far too big for the scanner! This is a 1200-subject proof sheet of Series 125 narrow 20 Class A cigarette stamps - the largest sheet of stamps ever produced by the Bureau of Engraving & Printing, printed from 1956-59.

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Posted 12/26/2021   9:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GregAlex to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just noodling around today and thought I'd poke through the proofs again. Pretty neat to see the $5 war saving stamps (WS11) in press sheets of 100.



https://americanhistory.si.edu/coll...nmah_1716452
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Posted 12/27/2021   11:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Casey Magoo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I could scan that at my office. All in a days work with the right HP equipment.
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Posted 12/27/2021   11:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would think that the Fed's could afford a large scanner/plotter.
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Posted 04/15/2022   11:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GregAlex to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I got back into the philatelic proofs this afternoon. Came across proof sheets for the original series tobacco taxpaids. I think these plates were also used for the 1871 series. This is such a pretty set I thought I'd post them all. Haven't found the proofs yet for the stamps under 10 lbs.


10 lbs - https://americanhistory.si.edu/coll...nmah_1579566


15 lbs - https://americanhistory.si.edu/coll...nmah_1579563


20 lbs - https://americanhistory.si.edu/coll...nmah_1579559


21 lbs - https://americanhistory.si.edu/coll...nmah_1579557


22 lbs - https://americanhistory.si.edu/coll...nmah_1579556


40 lbs - https://americanhistory.si.edu/coll...nmah_1579554


60 lbs - https://americanhistory.si.edu/coll...nmah_1579551
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Posted 04/18/2023   8:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GregAlex to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's been a long time since I visited the philatelic sections of the Certified Proofs, but I happened to be poking about the other day and found a few things of interest. Like ... opium strips! Can someone tell me what a tael is?



https://americanhistory.si.edu/coll...nmah_1593548



https://americanhistory.si.edu/coll...nmah_1593563



https://americanhistory.si.edu/coll...nmah_1593560
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Posted 04/18/2023   8:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A tael was a measure of weight for opium - I think about 1.3 ounces
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A tael was also a unit of money, and to my knowledge no one has ever been sure which one was being used for these. There are stamps known of the first design (and also post tax labels, both rare), but I do not believe any are known of the others. At least I am not aware of any.
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Posted 04/18/2023   11:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essay_proof to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I got back into the philatelic proofs this afternoon. Came across proof sheets for the original series tobacco taxpaids. I think these plates were also used for the 1871 series. This is such a pretty set I thought I'd post them all...

And I'm glad you did!

The 10 – 60 lb. stamps you pictured were first issued in 1869, Springer T22–28. The previous (and first-ever) issue of taxpaid tobacco stamps was produced by Continental under contract with the Treasury Dep't in 1868. That series consisted of 23 engraved stamps denominated in ounces and pounds, and 6 engraved cigar & cigarette stamps denominated in quantities of those items (e.g., 100 cigars).

In late 1869, the Treasury Dep't assumed production of the pound-denominated tobacco stamps while Continental continued to produce ounce-denominated stamps, and cigar & cigarette stamps.

The 1869 tobacco stamps were overprinted with either a network pattern or bands of lightly-colored lines, presumably in a fugitive ink. These same designs were issued again in 1870 and 1871, both issues having been similarly overprinted. With regard to the 1871 issue, Springer noted that "Many stamps exist without the lines, but since the colors are subject to fading it is possible that they are merely no longer visible."
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Posted 04/18/2023   11:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
re: tael.
SPQR and revcollector appear to both be on the right track....

I picked up this vintage British book many years ago for $2 at a library discard sale:


The listing for China contains mention of "tael" under both weight and money:



The appendix references the (British) Weights and Measures Act of 1878 (which I did not look up) and then repeats essentially the same data:




There is also a "tael" listed under Siam at a weight of slightly more than 1/8 of a pound, which did not seem to apply here.

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Posted 04/19/2023   08:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just as a point of information, this subject was being discussed 50 years ago by members of the NY chapter of the ARA.
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Posted 04/19/2023   1:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1typesetter to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Glad to see this thread bumped.

I've been poking around this site documenting the plate numbers of the revenues. I have started with the beer stamps and came across this one this started me drooling.


https://americanhistory.si.edu/coll...7219.120443&

If you want to know why, pull out your Scott's Specialized and check out REA85.

There were actually 9 plates created and approved for this issue.
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