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What type of additional information are you looking for? - plating? - shade? - Is it a genuine usage? - Who is the letter sent to?
Can you provide a scan of the inside of the folded letter? That may also help provide clues for some or all of these questions. |
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It is addressed to the Clerk of Ulster County. I'm assuming this is Ulster county in NY. |
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Yes this is to the County Clerk of Ulster County, NY. Kingston, NY it is dated Sept 23 rd, 1848 and is asking if something was received by their office and for an acknowledgement of same. Would that it had survived in better condition. I am posting the contents for what it is worth and in my opinion it is mundane court business,I am not sure of the writer's ID if someone might decipher the sending party's name. TIA I do wonder about the line in the left lower 5 and if the top and bottom frame lines might have been recut?  |
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Thanks Chipshot for the clarification. I was wondering about the black lines in the left and right 5's. As if it were part of a previous cancellation. My first thought was that this was a thinned or otherwise damaged stamp (from a different cover) being added to a damaged cover, to possibly get a few bucks out of two otherwise difficult-to-sell items. But seeing that there is foxing or a water stain tying the stamp at the right, if the stamp did originate elsewhere, it did not happen recently. It could just be a stray ink stain, the cover has seen a lot of abuse. I may have been reading too much into the Ashbrook Special Service columns recently and seeing things that aren't really there. |
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I can put that up, however it only says Kingston, New York, and I didn't think it was of any value. When I cropped the item, I didn't worry about not showing the rest of it. I'll try and set it up for tomorrow. As you are showing this interest, my grandfather was the clerk of courts for Ulster county and I believe that's how it became in his collection and beyond that I have had it since I got it sometime in the late 60s. And I'm not even sure about that was given Many items and then I bought the remainder of the collection from the estate in 1982
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There should be a Tivoli, NY postmark. (My point being, show *everything* when you ask about something.) |
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Here is the entire back of the folded stamped letter. There are no other markings and I think it very unlikely anything is under the stamp.  |
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I think that is a very interesting theory, and it certainly does add interest to the piece. I might consider taking the stamp up to see if in fact, there is something underneath it, and it might very well not hurt the value of the document. My theory is that it was Just in the files at the county clerks office, and when they decided to get rid of some of the old records, my grandfather was able to get the item. It will be interesting to see if anybody else wishes to add a comment about how it could've happened. |
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So I did remove my #1 from the Folded Letter and here are the results.  I scanned the back,  Here is the original document with no hidden postal markings. I would appreciate comments on the way the piece went through the mail system, The plating of the stamp and with that some direction as to what "color" this might be. Am I correct that if plated that indicates the color it should be? TIA  |
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