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Same Design ; Different Print Process Or Printer

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Posted 11/19/2012   2:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jorgesurcl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi
Another example of stamps printed by different printers and different printing systems :

BOLIVIA - Map
Left: Engraving - Perkins, Bacon & Co. - Scott 200 (year 1931)
Right: Offset-Litho - Local printing in La Paz - Scott 207 (year 1932)

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Posted 11/19/2012   4:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply




Different printers from left to right :
De La Rue, Enschede, Harrison, House Of Questa, Walsall.
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Posted 11/26/2012   10:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jorgesurcl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NEWFOUNDLAND
1932, Engraving. Printed by Perkins, Bacon & Co. (Scott 191) Perf. 13,5



1941, Engraving. Printed by Waterlow & Sons (Scott 257) Perf.12,5, with watermark

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Posted 12/02/2012   3:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jorgesurcl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ARGENTINA - Airmail
Top: Photogravure - Scott C40 (1940) - Wmk 90
Below: Offset-Litho - Scott C51 (1947) - Unwmk


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ARGENTINA - Industry
Left : Photogravure - Scott 824 (1966)
Right : Offset-Litho - Scott 825 (1967)


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SWEDEN - King Oscar II

Left : Typography, Scott 39 (1885)
Right : Engraving, Scott 58 (1891)

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Posted 01/16/2013   1:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jorgesurcl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ITALY - Castles series

Scott 1422 (year 1980) - Engraving and Offset-litho



Scott 1864 (year 1994) - Photogravure

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Posted 01/20/2013   5:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jorgesurcl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
GERMANY - Castles
All stamps were printed in Typography (in Michel Bdr = Buchdruck)
But 6 stamps (10, 30, 50, 60, 80 and 300pf) were also printed in Letterset - Dry Offset (in Michel Ldr)

Left : Typography (Bdr)
Right : Letterset - Dry Offset (Ldr)



Zoom at 2400dpi :
Above : Typography (Bdr)
Below : Letterset - Dry Offset (Ldr)



See the difference : Typography printing is more irregular, ink looks less smooth than the Letterset printing
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Edited by jorgesurcl - 01/21/2013 07:34 am
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Posted 01/20/2013   8:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for showing the different print methods of the German castles.

I believe though that the right term as used in Michel is letterset.

Letterpress is just another name for typography in English which means in German Buchdruck ; whereas Letterset is as you state an offset type of printing.

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Posted 01/20/2013   11:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jorgesurcl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lithograving, you are right!. It is Letterset and not Letterpress (I edited the previous message to correct it).

Letterset or Dry-Offset is typography with an intermediate cylinder (rubber) like in Offset-Litho.
In others words it is a kind of indirect typography.

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Posted 01/21/2013   4:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That illustration explains the difference between letterset and offset quite well jorgesurcl.

I've checked my mint and used castles but can't find any printed in letterset which as per Michel were first printed that way in 1987.
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Posted 01/21/2013   8:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jorgesurcl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, German castles printed in Letterset are more difficult to find.

ARGENTINA
Left : Scott 44 (1882). Typography (Bradbury Wilkinson & Co.)
Right : Scott 53 (1884). Engraving (American Bank Note Co.)



Left : Scott 45 (1882). Typography (Bradbury Wilkinson & Co.)
Right : Scott 54a (1885). Engraving (American Bank Note Co.)

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GREAT BRITAIN - QE II - Machin 2nd, blue
Printed in Offset-Litho (left) and Photogravure (right)



Zoom at 2400dpi
Offset-Litho (left) - Photogravure (right) :

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PERU - Printed in Offset-litho

Scott 472 - by Thomas De La Rue (1957)
Scott 477 - by Joh Enschedé (1960)





Scott 488 - by Thomas De La Rue (1962)
Scott 501 - by I.N.A. (1966)



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CHILE - Columbus
Engraving. Different printers

Scott 3 - Printed in Santiago (Feb.1854) by Narciso Desmadryl


Scott 4 - Printed in Santiago (Apr.1854) by Henri C. Gillet


Scott 8 - Printed in London (Apr.1855) by Perkins, Bacon & Co.


Scott 14 - Printed in Santiago (Jan.1866) by Post Office Printing Bureau

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