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Penny Red Plate 126.

 
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Posted 02/14/2025   1:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Murataxu to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
what is its worth?
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Posted 02/14/2025   2:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Have you tried any of the outfits like Ebay, Delcampe etc to check if one of these has been sold, or is listed by a dealer?


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Posted 02/14/2025   2:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is plate 123. 107,472,000 stamps printed. Value depends on the quality of the stamp and possibly the location on the sheet of stamps. Post whole stamp so that perfoirations and corner letters are visible. Possible value from UK£1.50 to £3.00 depending on condition etc.
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Posted 02/14/2025   2:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, it's plate 123. It's nice to have an identifiable cancellation (in this case York), but it adds only pennies to the value.

Plate 126 was rejected before being put to press, but a trial sheet may have been printed, as happened with the famous plate 77. So what would an authenticated stamp from plate 126 be worth? At least a million pounds.
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Posted 02/14/2025   5:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Murataxu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think I found 126! As this article defines they tried to change 3 to 6 but it was a failure. Do you see when you look to the 3 it is also 6...
Does anyone have 123 without cancellation? If there is please upload a high-res photo/scan please.

I want to check the difference

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Posted 02/14/2025   7:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So unlike plate 77 the plate didn't even progress to testing? Interesting.

I'm sure everybody has a Plate 123. Here's mine, with the number 3 very clear on the right.

Your stamp hasn't been altered. A random variation in the inking of the plate, or some tiny damage to the surface of the stamp, makes the 3 look a bit like a 6, but it's a 3.




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Edited by pjr - 02/14/2025 7:43 pm
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Posted 02/14/2025   11:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Murataxu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
First thnaks a lot for the image! It helped me in a great way
Now I am clearly see the difference. It. was a trial shaping a 3 into 6
Can yoou see the middle part of 3 clearly continues, there is a very thin back side of the 6 and top of 3 was destroyed (at least they tried). normal 3 is so strong it's not looking like a bit 6. Can you please see that image. If it's real 126 I will share a percentage of sale whoever helps me to be sure
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Posted 02/14/2025   11:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Murataxu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry image did not load because of the size limitation. Up part is Pjr's stamp (123)
Bottom one is mine. I m strongly suspicious it s a 126 which clearly it shows there is an effort over the last digit. Effort of making a 6 from 3
I hope I am right
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Posted 02/14/2025   11:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No stamps from plate 126 exist. This information is from the latest edition of the Stanley Gibbons QV Specialised Part 1.

Sorry to disappoint, but yours is a plate 123 Murataxu

It's human nature to want to believe we have the "rare one" but eventually, you start to look for all the reasons why you don't have the rare one!
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Edited by Bobby De La Rue - 02/14/2025 11:32 pm
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Posted 02/14/2025   11:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Murataxu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
by the way I'm sending the whole image of the stamp.
If anybody thinks it's a 126 I live in Istanbul. I can easily show the stamp whoever wants to see. I mean any person who is an expert about this subject.

I am a professional photographer and #305; can see some tiny details. But I am not a stamp expert. Whoever spent her/his life can easily say if there is another 6 shaped 3. If any expert believes It can be please contact me.

If it's 123 I will be surprised because there is absolutely a dramatic difference between proper 123 and this example. Why center of the 3 clearly continues and touches the very thin back part of the 6? this is an error item. If it was an obvious 6 than I could be found much earlier. I am after my catch. I put it into my collection as 126.




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Posted 02/14/2025   11:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Use magnification on the left side and you'll see a 3. Your very first image is pretty clearly a 3, too, and zooming out adds more clarity. There's more "stuff" there for a 3 than a 6.
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Posted 02/15/2025   04:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamps from plate 126 have never been issued to the public.

I am somewhat bewildered that you think it might be plate 126 and not 128 - an equally impossible plate - because as your images show clearly, it looks nowhere close to a 6. Your "effort" story is pure fiction.

Your enlarged image is very clear. It shows number 123.

As for value, your stamp is not worth even a penny. It is heavily damaged.
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Posted 02/15/2025   10:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add flip138 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The website of the Great Britain Philatelic Society contains images of the imprimatur sheets of the 1d reds with four corner letters.

https://www.gbps.org.uk/information...d-plates.php

I have grabbed a screenshot of the NF stamp from plate 123.



The positioning of the lower corner letters in the plate 123 imprimatur sheet appears to match those of Murataxu's stamp.

Phil
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Posted 02/16/2025   12:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Murataxu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much for all answers! I am absolutely very happy about that topic. But for me, a great applause goes to flip138 for sharing that link.

I knew it was %99.99 #123 but I needed help with honest opinions

Thank you all guys, cheers.
Keep watching me, maybe more dreams will follow :)
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