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Where To Find Scott Watermark Numbers And Illustrations?

 
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Posted 11/13/2016   1:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add chris2015 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Is there a place where I can find the watermark numbers listed in the the Scott catalog matched to an illustration of the watermark? They are scattered throughout the Scott catalog, but hard to find specific ones you are looking for.

Any ideas?

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Posted 11/14/2016   02:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jbcev80 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi chris2015

There used to be a web site that had all the information, plus illustrations, for the sort of information you are looking for. Unfortunately, like many web sites, it is gone. Somebody here may have downloaded the pages before it went "bye bye". I think, but am not sure, that Rod222 may have some of the pages.

It seems that you have the Scott catalogs. If you have a stamp that you wish to watermark, you must know which country, at the least. Just go to the Scott catalog country section and at the beginning of that country's listings are all the known watermarks for that country. I am a little confused as to why you need all of them in one place.

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Posted 11/14/2016   10:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chris2015 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info.

Don't really need all of them in one place, it would just be very convenient to find them. All the watermarks for a country are not at the beginning of each country (for example if they were used in a previous country). I have a stamp from a particular country (can't remember now and I'm at work) that is listed as Wk #30, but there's no illustration for that watermark. It was likely used previously in another country, but where?

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Posted 11/14/2016   11:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
chris205, as soon as you get home from work, and after you eat and kiss the wife, give us the specifics of the stamp. We may be able to help you out!

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Posted 11/14/2016   12:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As I recall, there was a time when Scott had that info all in one place in one of the volumes, but those days are long gone now.
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Posted 11/14/2016   6:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chris2015 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, I kissed the wife, but haven't eaten dinner yet...but that's ok. The stamp in question is Bechuanaland Protectorate either Scott# 82 (Wmk. 30) or Scott# 84 (Wmk. Crown ad GvR #33).

Thanks!
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Posted 11/14/2016   6:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Front cover and title page, copyright 1966, is ordered by Whitman number with cross references to Scott, Gibbons, and Minkus watermark numbers.



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Posted 11/14/2016   6:39 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Chris

Working from Gibbons, there are various groups of GV overprints of the lower values:
(i) Sept 1912 - 1d scarlet only, wmk Crown; (ii) July 1913-1924 - wmk Script or Simple Cypher; (iii) 1925-27 - Block Cypher (capital letters).

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Posted 11/14/2016   7:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Rod222 may have some of the pages.


Hi Jerry,
I have the Commonwealth
I am only a recent Scott convert, so nothing there

Example............... (I have the other 2 pages, if anyone is interested.)

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Posted 11/14/2016   7:51 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Those watermarks are illustrated in the Great Britain section of my Scott 1999 Classic Specialized.
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Posted 11/14/2016   8:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chris2015 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great, thanks for everyone's comments. Yes, the ones I was looking for are in the Great Britain section of my catalog. I should have thought to look there!
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Posted 01/19/2025   11:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alfredr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I know this is a very old topics but I found a copy of the watermark book in the internet archive site. This might be of some interest for some of you. Registraiton is free .

https://archive.org/details/stampcollectorsg00feli
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Posted 01/19/2025   1:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome! Thank you so much.
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