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Posted 08/20/2024   1:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Just_fella to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

Some stamp identification is based off a single reference feature like a simple hair line or scratch that gives a viewpoint to a different type.

Couple questions.

1) how much outside visual information should be included to support findings?

2) Would ink from a postmark be permitted and be accepted in helping to confirm a feature of a stamp?

3) Are there permissions needed, if so what would be the proper channel to go through?
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Posted 08/20/2024   2:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your question is far too vague.
Without a concrete example to discuss, the thread cannot progress very far other than general speculation.
(and question #3 makes no sense to me at all.)
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Posted 08/20/2024   2:18 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As gnomic as ever, eh?
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Posted 08/20/2024   4:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I dont know about gnomic but I have a hard time understanding
what my fellow/fella Canadian is talking about.
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Posted 08/21/2024   11:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I am also confused. The OP "may" be asking how much information is needed to confirm the identification of a specific stamp variety. I believe their example is if they find a hair line or scratch, can they then say it is stamp A.

Some catalogs show known varieties. Those catalogs, by word or detailed photo, will show you which specific feature makes it that known variety. Therefore, for example, if the description is "scratch from upper left to lower right", you would probably assume you have the same, as long as you have a scratch from upper left to lower right of the exact same issue, color, denomination, watermark, etc. Better yet, if they show a picture and your scratch EXACTLY matches the picture, then you are probably good. (But read the wording as they may also say that there is another feature somewhere else, and you need both of these to be present.)

If the Ink from a postmark obscures part of the variety, then it matters how much. Every case would be different. However, we used to have a poster here that thought they had super software that could look through postmarks at the features underneath. I don't think they got much agreement from this group.

I have no idea what you are asking in point number 3. Perhaps you are asking how to certify such a variety? Send it in. Don't just state on eBay that this is a newly discovered variety and give it some catchy name.

NOW, another thought. That is that the OP is asking if a special feature points to a new, unknown variety. I believe the consensus would be that you need to have at least one other confirming copy with the EXACT same feature to have a chance of proving a consistent, new variety.

At least this is how I am reading the OP's questions.
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Edited by Partime - 08/21/2024 11:37 am
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Posted 08/21/2024   11:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some vague answers to vague questions:

1- Yes
2- Perhaps if the ink is a postmark necessary to prove date of usage
3- The Vice-Principal?
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Edited by shermae - 08/22/2024 01:56 am
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Posted 09/24/2024   11:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Question 3 came from here.



Question #2, confirmed, yes it can.

Question #1, depends on question #3's answer?



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Posted 09/25/2024   04:22 am  Show Profile Check orstampman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add orstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Now your question 3 makes sense with the addition of the postalmuseum.si.edu information. The statement is about reproducing or using the image(s), and possibly needing to obtain permission from the image owner (copyright).

This has nothing to do with identifying stamp features, only with publishing the image(s). Hopefully this helps to clear the confusion.
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Edited by orstampman - 09/25/2024 06:23 am
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