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Bavaria: 1911 Prince Regent Luitpold Issues

 
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Posted 04/20/2023   08:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Calstamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Have a few questions regarding the 90th birthday issues cataloged as Scott 77 through 91.

Catalogue notation indicates stamps within this series have two versions. Does this refer to WM 95 (wavy lines) horizontal vs. vertical? Or is there another version of which to be aware?

Does this notation re two versions pertain to all stamps within the series?

Regarding the 5 pf value, listed by Scott as "dark green, green". I have two versions of this stamp. First is printed on off-white paper. Second on bluish green paper. Are these two varieties of the same stamp?

Thanks in advance.
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Posted 04/20/2023   09:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Catalogue notation indicates stamps within this series have two versions. Does this refer to WM 95 (wavy lines) horizontal vs. vertical? Or is there another version of which to be aware?


Have to guess here, Jim.
Maybe the heading Maerz shown here two types Scott #79




My Scott # 78 Green on Green
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Edited by rod222 - 04/20/2023 09:13 am
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Posted 04/20/2023   09:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Calstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Great response. Thank you, Rod222.

Based on your side-by-side comparison of the 10 pf issue, would it be safe to conclude there are also varieties re paper size?
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Posted 04/20/2023   09:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Based on your side-by-side comparison of the 10 pf issue, would it be safe to conclude there are also varieties re paper size?


Apologies I noticed that a few minutes ago, Jim.
No, I generally scan 2 stamps adjacent at 600dpi,
sometimes the platen is full and I squeeze in a single

So these were scanned at different times
They would be the same size if scanned together adjacent.
Both are Scott type A6

I "toggle" 2 stamps looking for a variety,
These can be identified by the distance between the "R" and the "Z"
(Top of the "R" and top of the "Z")

The Green / Green cannot answer, maybe yours on light paper is a colour changeling.
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Edited by rod222 - 04/20/2023 09:43 am
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@Rod, also look at the loop of the 'R' in Maerz. It is small in type I and big in type II. Which could be the reason for the difference in distance.
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Edited by NSK - 04/20/2023 09:59 am
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Posted 04/20/2023   09:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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look at the loop of the 'R' in Maerz. It is small in type I and big in type II.

Spot on !


Whoa! wait a minute, just found a 5pf on cream paper
Rushing to my catalogues.....
At the end of my folder, meaning "unidentified"
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Edited by rod222 - 04/20/2023 10:00 am
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Posted 04/20/2023   10:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

We shall have to leave this one to the German experts,
All I can guess is that these are from booklets.

Cannot read German, or this 1963 Michel catalogue
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Posted 04/20/2023   10:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Type I, the one you posted earlier is a type II.

This scan of the catalogue only identifies the ad on the label and prices horizontal (waagerecht) and vertical (senkrecht) pairs. The 'Z.' abbreviation will be explained somewhere. My guess would be it stands for 'Zusammendrucke' (printed se-tenant).
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Edited by NSK - 04/20/2023 10:37 am
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Posted 04/20/2023   12:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Calstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Found the following information on the Stamp Collecting World website:

Scott 77 - 91. Michel 76 - 91.

"Printed on horizontal wavy lines close together, watermarked papers of various colors. Pfennig values P14 x 14.5. Mark values: P 11.5."

"5 and 10 pfennig values exist in booklet panes. 5, 10, and 25 pfennig values exist in coils."

"Type I: Inscription at top is thin and blurry. The top of the "R" in "MAERZ" is small. Middle bar of the "E" in "MAERZ" is short. The "N" of "BAYERN" is pointed at the upper left end. Type I occurs on all denominations, except the 60 Pfennig.

"Type II: Inscription at top is thicker and sharper. The top of the "R" in "MAERZ" is large. Middle bar of the "E" in "MAERZ" is longer. The "N" of "BAYERN" has a serif at the upper left end. Type II occurs on all denominations. The Type II 5 Pf., 10 Pf., and 25 Pf. stamps are from coils.

"Type III: Like Type I, but the top of the "R" in "MAERZ" is larger. "N" of "BAYERN" is like Type I. Type III only occurs on the 3 Pf., 5 Pf., and 10 Pf. All of these are very scarce.

"Type IV: Inscription at top is stronger and clearer. The top of the "R" in "MAERZ" is very large. The middle bar of the "E" in "MAERZ" is clearer. The "N" of "BAYERN" is like Type II. Type IV occurs on all the denominations."
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Posted 04/20/2023   5:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Jim.
That is going to make quite a set for the flyspeckers.

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