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Posted 05/25/2013   5:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ilovelabbies to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I recently aquired this cover and am wondering why there is no CDS on it, just the fancy cancel. I am not even sure what time period it came from.

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Posted 05/25/2013   6:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sure many people on here can tell you about cork cancels.. which you can "google" for your own information meantime. As for the date period... a clue may be in the message... 1885?
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Posted 05/25/2013   6:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What are the chances of another one of the same covers being offered on Ebay, addressed to the same individual, and appears to be the same handwriting, only this one includes the enclosures:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1885-Printe...120747627158
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Posted 05/25/2013   6:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It says on the cover it is for a membership notice in 1885. At the time CDS stamps were not in universal usage.
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Posted 05/25/2013   7:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ilovelabbies to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Silly me, I didn't even see that date. I thought everything was stamped with a postmark, even stampless covers. I guess I have a lot to learn.

wt1: What exactly does this mean because there is another one exactly the same? Mine has the same enclosure also. That is so odd. Of course, I got mine for tons cheaper and a completely different seller.
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Posted 05/25/2013   7:26 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The lack of a CDS on circular mail is very common as there was no requirement to use one, unlike on ordinary letters. Rochester certainly had at least one CDS device, if not several by 1885. I have a year-dated CDS from 1859 in my collection.
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Posted 05/25/2013   7:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1847bill to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Mutual Relief Societies were a form of insurance. They pooled people together and when they had losses they would send notices to pay a premium. The one you have is for fire I believe and the other on eBay is for death benefits.
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Posted 05/25/2013   9:32 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Mutual Relief Society"... is that anything like "friends with benefits"?
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Posted 05/27/2013   08:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add centerstage98 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't really collect covers, but am always interested .. what is a CDS?
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Posted 05/27/2013   08:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1847bill to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
CDS stands for circular date stamp.
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Posted 05/27/2013   08:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a cover with a CDS and cork killer, from about the same time period as your cover, just for reference.

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