Stamp Community Family of Web Sites
Thousands of stamps, consistently graded, competitively priced and hundreds of in-depth blog posts to read
Stamp Community Forum
 
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.
Welcome Guest! Need help? Got a question? Inherit some stamps?
Our stamp forum is completely free! Register Now!

Ireland Tax Revenu Stamp?

Previous Page
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 21 / Views: 5,089Next Topic
Page: of 2
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
3547 Posts
Posted 12/12/2011   10:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
The listing tells me that the die was used from 1863 to 1921, at least, and finally destroyed in 1924. I can't tell from the excerpt if it was repaired and sent back to Dublin to be put back in use, or whether it sat at Somerset House until being destroyed in 1924.


If it was returned to Somerset House from Dublin in 1921, I'd guess the new Irish Free State had no further use for it
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
6831 Posts
Posted 12/12/2011   11:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's good.

But seriously, the fire that damaged the seal would have been the IRA's attack on the Custom House on May 25, 1921. Since the truce was July, 1921, that might also explain the two-month delay in sending it back to Somerset House?

Here is where I don't know my Irish history. Would there have been little or no revenue collection over the intervening year until the creation of the Irish Free State? I don't know if anyone was "in charge" from the truce through the treaty to the creation of the new country...I could believe that no one stuck his head up to collect taxes for the crown, but I just don't know.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
3547 Posts
Posted 12/13/2011   5:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not sure either, but proceeding on first principles ... As Income Tax was still a very small proportion of government revenues, and would have been smaller still in Ireland at the time, and Britain was a Free Trade nation, so customs duties would also have been negligible, stamp duties and excise would have been important sources of revenue.

On the other hand, by mid-1921, the writing was clearly on the wall for the British. It would have been obvious that there wasn't going to be any further need for specifically Irish duty stamps. At a guess, general, non-Irish specific revenues would have been pressed into use in the interim.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
21 Posts
Posted 12/13/2011   7:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ymc91356 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
britain reigns places related history
http://www.historyisaweapon.org/def...inntyr4.html
This accumulated sense of grievance against the rich in Boston may account for the explosiveness of mob action after the Stamp Act of 1765, Through this Act, the British were taxing the colonial population to pay for the French war, in which colonists had suffered to expand the British Empire. That summer, a shoemaker named Ebenezer Macintosh led a mob in destroying the house of a rich Boston merchant named Andrew Oliver. Two weeks later, the crowd turned to the home of Thomas Hutchinson, symbol of the rich elite who ruled the colonies in the name of England. They smashed up his house with axes, drank the wine in his wine cellar, and looted the house of its furniture and other objects. A report by colony officials to England said that this was part of a larger scheme in which the houses of fifteen rich people were to be destroyed, as pan of "a War of Plunder, of general levelling and taking away the Distinction of rich and poor."
so many destroyed. not only stamps..
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
38679 Posts
Posted 12/13/2011   7:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Would there have been little or no revenue collection over the intervening year


Information is sketchy, but I do know there was an interim
"bombardment cancel"
This may be an example



Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
38679 Posts
Posted 12/13/2011   7:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Any ID?


Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Page: of 2 Previous TopicReplies: 21 / Views: 5,089Next Topic  
Previous Page
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.

Go to Top of Page
Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Stamp Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2025 Stamp Community Family - All rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Stamp Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Privacy Policy / Terms of Use    Advertise Here
Stamp Community Forum © 2007 - 2025 Stamp Community Forums
It took 0.14 seconds to lick this stamp. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05