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Postcard Of King George V In Coronation Robe (I Think)

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Posted 06/23/2011   12:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add fincbob2451 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here ia an article that may help to explain the miniver/ermine question. What I come away with is this. The white in the trim of a robe or crown is miniver. The black spots are the tip of the ermines tail. So it appears to me that a combination of ermine and miniver is used but I may be wrong.
Thanks
David

www.reocities.com/noelcox/Peers_Robes.htm - Similar
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Edited by fincbob2451 - 06/23/2011 1:49 pm
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Posted 06/24/2011   01:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks David,
marvelous find.
So they began in Somerset,
The English have a lot to thank us for,
we even staved off an invasion.

Three cheers for the Somersetarians! Oooh Arrrrh !
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Posted 06/24/2011   1:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
fincbob:

FYI, when you put in a web link, include the http:// in front of it and SCF will automatically create a link like this:

http://www.reocities.com/noelcox/Peers_Robes.htm

Thanks for the link; good info.
KirkS

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Posted 06/24/2011   2:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I thought Mrs Miniver was a movie???
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Posted 06/24/2011   2:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add fincbob2451 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the tip KirkS, will do.
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Posted 06/24/2011   9:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mrs Miniver was initially a series of newspaper columns
(serials) written from personal experiences,
that was later made into a film.
Had vast influence on Britain's war effort.
I haven't seen the movie, but would very like to
I'll have to try and dig that one out.

Stars Greer Garson (Yummmmmmm!) I fell in love with her
in "Pride and Prejudice"
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Posted 06/24/2011   9:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jubilee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Better get the tissues ready then Rod
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Posted 06/24/2011   9:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Horamkhet to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rod222

I tell you something else about that genocidal dictator Cromwell.
Cromwell was not even his real name.
His name was Oliver Williams, he took the name Cromwell as it was his Mothers Maiden name and she is supposed to have been descended from Cromwell who was a chancellor of Henry VIII, and the family swore eternal vengeance on the Royal family of England for the Execution of their ancestor as a common criminal. They were all bad eggs.
I know all this as my family figured very prominently in the English Civil War of the 1640'S and in family documents it talks about the double dealings of Cromwell and how he would lie and cheat to get his own way, and he would summarily execute any of his men who disagreed with his decisions.
Vive le Roi
Horamakhet.
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Edited by Horamkhet - 06/24/2011 10:36 pm
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Posted 06/24/2011   10:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Horamkhet to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry all

I posted the reply twice.
So have removed it.
Horamakhet
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Posted 06/25/2011   12:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Horamkhet to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Hi Rod222
Here is an actual hand coloured photo of St Edwards Crown from about 1904,also some information as well.
This is from a rare book called "The Book of the Pearl" by George Frederick Kunz and Charles Hugh Stevenson. London 1908
The Crown of St. Edward, the official crown of England, is used at each coronation. The original crown of this name was destroyed by the Republicans in 1649, but at the time of the coronation of Charles the II, another crown was made to take its place, under the direction of Sir Robert Viner. As far as can be known, this crown was an exact copy of the older one, which was worn by Edward the Confessor, and perhaps even King Alfred. The crown in use at present is of gold, richly studded with pearls and precious stones of various kinds: diamonds, rubies, emeralds and sapphires. There is a mound of gold on top, and on this a cross of gold ornamented with very large oval pearls, and attached to the top and the two others pendant from the ends of the cross. The present arrangement of the jewels cannot date back earlier than 1689, as the crown was found to be despoiled of them at the time of the accession of William and Mary. Those now in the crown are acknowledged to be inferior to the former ones.
As and add on, I would like to say that the firm of Viner, was still making cultlery and flatware in the Late 19th and early 20th century, as were known as Viner and Hall. I do not know if they still exist.
Hope this helps
Regards,
Horamakhet.
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Posted 06/25/2011   01:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks,
Interesting.
The original Confessors massy gold crown was said to be 7Lb
which is extraordinary, (A lee Enfield rifle weighs 8.8LB)
This crown weighs in a little less at 5Lb
a fair weight to place on a lass's head.

Republicans fail to see the advantage of a King/Queen
and the example they set.
Both in the UK and Thailand I have seen and experienced the calming
influence of a Monarchy.

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Posted 06/25/2011   07:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Horamkhet to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rod222

I agree, the Monarchy does have a calming influence. It seems strange but in times of national crisis persons find the Monarchy to be more than just a figure head and look to the Monarchy for leadership and guidance, whereas in a Republic every-one seems to pulling in different directions.
No offense is intended to any-one or Nation, and if I have offended any-one by that statement I appologise.
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Horamakhet
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