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Hello, here is a postcard showing King George V in what I think is his coronation robe. It's quite elaborate, isn't it. The card is a bit rough condition wise but I really like it. Thanks David 
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I think you are correct, he is wearing the St Edwards Crown and in the background, poking through the light is the right left hand portion of the "coronation chair" Here Is Queen Victoria on the same chair.  |
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The two arms on the side of the crown, are golden arches and are the insignia of a ruler. Without them the crown would only remain a coronet.
Henry 5, wore a coronet over his helmet at the battle of Agincourt.
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Hi rod222, That is very interesting. I looked up coronet and was surprised to see the different types of coronets and the specifics for each one according to rank. I also tried to find out what type of materials the robe was made from but hit a dead end. Any idea? Thanjks David
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Coronation robes are traditionally made of silk velvet trimmed with ermine |
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I guess the robe cost a mint, hence he was stuck with his mom's curtains for a 'dress' ...looks like he might have borrowed her shoes too!  |
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Thank you Kirks and jubilee, I looked up ermine in healdry and it was quite an interesting read. Between that , the crowns and coronets I have learned a good bit today. Thanks to aLL. dAVID |
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Far be it for me to argue with my esteemed colleagues, but there is a query raised here. If we are discussing the crown, then the fur is Miniver. Now I believe that the Peer's robes are actually miniver, and ermine is only used in a heraldry context, but I could be wrong. Both descriptions are of the fur from the Stoat which is white with a black tail, it is sewn together to form "miniver" or "ermine" ie white with black patches or spots. This is the crown of st edward 1950 circa and the fur is most definitely classed as "miniver"  |
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Note: Edward the confessors crown above, is a copy, made for Charles 2, and which all Kings and Queens of England have been been crowned since 1661, the original having been disposed of (melted down) during the reign of that genocidal dictator Oliver Cromwell.
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Hello, rod222, I am a bit confused. Ermine is the winter coat of the stoat,white fur with a black tail. Miniver is an unspotted white fur of the staot and the stoat are distinguished by the black tip on their tail.Wouldn't the fur on the crown be ermine as it has the black spots? Thanks David |
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Quote: If we are discussing the crown, then the fur is Miniver. I thought the original question was regarding the ROBE itself, not the fabric of the crown. Either way, I've learned something  Kirk |
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Kirk, both materials look the same, I was using the crown to come from a point of establishment in that miniver is the description used by officialdom in the nomenclature of the Crown Jewels.
As David pointed out, it then becomes confusing, and I don't think we have an answer yet. What I am suggesting is that Ermine may be a common reference, but in actual fact be incorrect for the robe. Miniver may be the correct name, but has become unpopular in its usage.
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