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Czeslaw Slania Master Engraver

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Posted 04/24/2018   08:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add florian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
graphis - Many thanks for your close-ups of both S/Ss that clearly show the colour registration problems encountered in printing the souvenir sheet, which did not appear in the sheet stamp.
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Posted 04/24/2018   6:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Florian nice to see you back posting again.

Here is a detail from the souvenir sheet you asked for...



and here the sheet stamp and the SS stamp side beside




There are differences especially in the light colours.
Look at the red lines in the cap of the postillion.
The sheet stamp lines are approx 125° whereas in the SS stamp
the lines run approx 30°.
Even the black direct has differences such as the
letters on the mail satchels.
Sheet stamp a T, SS stamp an R.

So going by what you mentioned previously the 3 indirect recess colours (orange,red & blue) where printed on one pass and
the direct recess black on the second.
I wonder if Slania engraved only the one colour direct recess
and other engravers did the colours?

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Posted 04/24/2018   10:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
On graphis' SS # I there are definite colour shifts but
I'm not so sure that's the problem with mine.

Looking at the red areas to the left of the horses' head
and the green area (bleeding together of the blue&orange inks)
to the right of the center horse and
the greenish mess around the window frame I think maybe
this was caused by some sort of malfunction of the ink
wiping system leaving too much ink on the chablon cylinder
which then transfer excess ink to the plate cylinder.


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Poor quality control and not enough experience by the printing staff
in this new technique of two pass multicolour recess printing
probably also contributed in making a bad job.






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Posted 04/25/2018   10:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add florian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
lithograving - Both your and graphis' equipment and expertise in the use of it can work wonders for the study of these problems. Thank you very much.

Comparing the differences in your blow-ups with those of graphis' provides a wealth of varieties, which I, as a layman, am at a loss to explain.

Just why the red in your blow-ups spreads to the left in the right-hand part of your S/S without colour shifts (but not in either of those of graphis') while the blue spreads to the right of the horse's head and to the left of its legs?

Also, compare the red in the mailcoach driver's trousers on your S/S and the blue in both S/Ss of graphis'.

There seem to have been some changes in the colour scheme, IMO.

Still, these are very interesting blow-ups and I am most grateful for them to both of you.
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Posted 04/25/2018   3:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is an interesting website: www.stampprinters.info
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Yes jogil it's a really great site and I have spent
many hours on it over the years because there is just
so much information there.

The site is owned by SCF member 65170 (Glenn Morgan)

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Posted 05/03/2018   7:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Czeslaw Slania engraved this Danish souvenir sheet and sheet stamp
issued for HAFNIA '87 portraying a mail train circa 1912
and Scott 82 showing the General Post Office, Copenhagen.

Denmark 1987

Scott 843 Sheet Stamp



Scott 843A Souvenir Sheet



Slania engraved the upper portion of the stamp based
on Scott 82.
That stamp was issued in 1912 and printed by the
Reichsdruckerei, Berlin.

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Posted 05/07/2018   10:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add graphis to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A large stamp(3X2 inches approx)part of a souvenir sheet, issued by Sweden in 1993 featuring the Royal Family:Crown Princess Victoria, the King, Prince Carl Philip, Princess Madeleine, and Queen Silvia.
Scott 2037


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Posted 05/07/2018   10:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add graphis to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Joint issue 1998 with Poland...featuring King Zygmunt/Sigismund III Wasa (1566-1632). King of Sweden 1592-1599 and of Poland 1587-1632.
Engraving based on a painting by Paul Rubens.

Sweden litho /engraved Scott#2312


Poland engraved Scott#3412
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Posted 05/07/2018   10:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add graphis to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Issued by Iceland in 1986 celebrating the Bicentenary of Reykjavik from a set of four stamps...only two were engraved by Slania

Scott#629 & 630

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Joint issue with China in 1997...litho and engraved.

Swedish Pheasant.
Scott # 2225.


Chinese Lady Amherst's Pheasant.
Scott # 2226.
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Here are the first 15 items from a series of 23 world heavyweight boxing champions Slania must have done in the middle 1960's. The last cinderella is Cassius Clay 1964. The labels are approximately 48mm x 33mm in size, perf tip to perf tip.

Note the Star of David in the upper right corner of Max Baer's portrait. It is the only symbol on any of the 23 labels. I can scan the remaining 8 labels if anyone is interested.





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Posted 05/12/2018   02:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jjarmstrong47 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In 1973, Slania engraved a set of stamps featuring Queen Margarethe.



The set was repeated in 1978 with different values and changing the spelling of the country name from the old style to the modern spelling.



When I was scanning these, I thought that the portraits were the same engraving but started "imagining" that they looked a bit different. When I looked more closely, I saw that there are quite a few small differences. To me, this looks like Slania has re-engraved the portrait rather than simply touching up a five year old die.
The hair contains a few examples. Here is the earlier engraving.



The spot highlighted on the left has a different number of dashes to the later engraving. There are also differences in the area highlighted on the right.



If this is indeed a completely new engraving, the consistency is truly remarkable.

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Posted 09/15/2018   07:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bob's images at 600dpi.

Further reading:
http://goscf.com/t/42046





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