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Posted 01/04/2017   12:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Message
Hi guys...Here is probably the oldest marker monkey cancel I have (could check more, but)...Here is a Scott 25ii with a marker cancel from 1868..Any one got more or older cancels like this...

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Posted 01/04/2017   12:23 pm  Show Profile Check Gilles le timbre's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wert, here is a 1858 one, available as lot 35 from the upcoming Sparks Auction

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Posted 01/04/2017   12:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gilles le timbre...Thats cheating..no one here has it yet...haha


Here is the oldest marker cancel on cover that I have..1891


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Posted 01/04/2017   1:16 pm  Show Profile Check Petert4522's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK guys, is that not how stamps were sometimes cancelled back then?

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Posted 01/04/2017   1:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not often Peter..

Just grabbed 2 more from that era..



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Posted 01/05/2017   1:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sure the the postal regulations Canada and the U.S. were quite different during the time period of the above cover.
In the U.S., the Post Office Department furnished cancelers to all the larger post offices:
Class I (annual revenue exceeding $1,000) received steel duplex devices,
Class II (annual revenue between $500 and $1,000) received iron postmarks,
and Class III (annual revenue between $100 and $500) received wooden postmarks.
The postmasters at the small fourth class post offices were left to their own devices, so to speak, and had to purchase their date stamps and cancelers out of pocket.
In July of 1873, there were 33, 780 post offices in the United States. About 95% of those were 4th class offices. All of them had pens.
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Posted 01/05/2017   2:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KirkS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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As can be deduced from my avatar, I love a good manuscript cancel.



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Posted 01/05/2017   4:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So I'm curious - for the early US stamps, a pen cancel usually drops the value of the stamp by about half, versus a handstamp or other cancellation. Is there a similar effect on the value of Canadian stamps that are pen cancelled?
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Posted 01/06/2017   08:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KirkS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes @txstamp; same effect on all classic stamps, I believe.

But some collectors (like me) are more tolerant of the pen cancels. Also, some of them I could never afford anyway
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Posted 01/06/2017   09:16 am  Show Profile Check Petert4522's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wert, this has nothing to do with your cancels, but did someone leave the door open up there? The temps here feel like Canada.

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Posted 01/06/2017   10:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Peter...haha
Hey, its only -13 Celsius..Got my shorts on..

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Posted 01/06/2017   10:42 am  Show Profile Check Petert4522's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I have my shorts on also. Right now it is 36 Fahrenheit - no idea about Celsius, and just came back from an almost empty grocery store because we expect between 1 and 3 inches of snow here tonight! Panic reigns!
Just checked. -13 Celsius is between 8 and 9 Fahrenheit. It does get that low here sometimes - once every 100 years or so!


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Posted 01/06/2017   11:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lol, pretty cold here, 14* Fahrenheit this am when I got up, and I'm in the lower end of the Willamette Valley, in Oregon. Had 6" of snow Tuesday, which is still here, too cold to melt! The high yesterday was 30. Unusual for this local!
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Posted 01/06/2017   11:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ah..its not to bad here for snow this year.

GOT THE DRIVE WAY CLEARED THIS MORNING.



AND REMEMBER...

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Posted 01/07/2017   2:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ciletaliph to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oh my wert, good thing you have lots of stamps to flyspeck
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Posted 01/09/2017   9:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
WERT - AS for the "SPRING IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER! I have just one word BOOOOO! That's terrible (LOL!)
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