Stamp Community Family of Web Sites
Stamp Community Forum
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

Welcome Guest! Need help? Got a question? Inherit some stamps?
Our stamp forum is completely free! Register Now!

Breaking Up U.S. Plate Blocks to Get a Nice Single  
 

Next Page    
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic
Page: of 2
Valued Member

United States
115 Posts
Posted 01/11/2017   9:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add paul78703 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Message
Do any of you sometimes break up a plate block (carefully!) in order to obtain a really nice MNH single? Is doing that a philatelic no-no?

I am thinking that doing that might be the best way to get the stamps that I seek: well-centered, MNH singles with full, clean perfs and no defects of any kind (incl. fingerprints on the gum). For most of the stamps I buy, the plate blocks don't cost a whole lot more than the single stamp.

Comments?
Send note to Staff

Pillar Of The Community
Learn More...
United States
628 Posts
Posted 01/12/2017   12:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add yakboomer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not generally, but I broke up a block of 4 Scott #620 once. They were all nice and I kept one for my collection and sold the other 3. I have sometimes used post 1950's plate blocks for singles and rest for postage. I think it is up to you to decide what to do with your stamps.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page


regards, TR
Pillar Of The Community
Learn More...
United States
2885 Posts
Posted 01/12/2017   10:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In the old days, you would often see a block of stamps offered at auction.

First, they would auction the individual stamps.

Then, they would auction the intact block.

Highest bid total won.

Harder to do these days because of automation: the software is written for individual lots, and conditional combinations would require a whole 'nother layer of effort when there are plenty of other things to be done.

That having been said, there is a lot of (well-justified IMHO) (okay, IMO) anger directed towards jumbos, to wit:

{google} jumbo site:www.stampcommunity.org

Q/ You can't find someone to swap a nice plate block for a nicer single?

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
115 Posts
Posted 01/12/2017   1:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add paul78703 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would never break up a valuable or rare block or plate block in order to get a nice single, "jumbo" or otherwise.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Learn More...
United Kingdom
1958 Posts
Posted 01/12/2017   1:48 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As most modern blocks have no particular value, why not break them up? The mutilation of imperforated blocks is a different matter, and should lead to a spell in the stocks.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
198 Posts
Posted 01/12/2017   1:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alub to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've seen numerous auction descriptions for very expensive stamps which read, " PF certificate for the original strip of four from which this pair was taken." breaking up a common plate-block seem trivial in comparison.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by alub - 01/12/2017 2:14 pm
Pillar Of The Community
United States
1425 Posts
Posted 01/15/2017   12:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I break them up all the time and use them for postage, actually save pennies. Ex. Bought a block of four #1758 for $.40, kept the best off the four and used the other three with a 2 center and saved 15 cents paying a bill which I refuse to pay online. Every penny is critical for me.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
3333 Posts
Posted 01/15/2017   12:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Common ones are not a problem, but the grading craze has led to many scarce and even rare multiples being broken, including plate blocks.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
Canada
73 Posts
Posted 01/15/2017   12:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vfstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was just pondering this same issue. I have this nice block with a light HR straddling the upper two, but the bottom two are clean NH.

I'll likely send it to Maresch/Sparks/Eastern, (I don't collect mint) and I doubt they'd break it up...

The whole "breaking up" concept doesn't really make much logical sense to me, but I know it's often done.

My conclusion is.. where strips/blocks are less common (say, I dunno... the First Cents issue), always leave them alone. For used, ditto.

For Mints that are commonly seen in Blocks (Jubilees, Admirals), breaking them apart to produce some NH copies seems reasonable.

A more experienced member might be able to comment on this, and whether it would make sense for my own block.

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by vfstamp - 01/15/2017 12:53 pm
Valued Member
Learn More...
Canada
328 Posts
Posted 01/15/2017   2:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
vfstamp, you do not need an experienced member........you have responded to your question, since you do not do "mint"

Since I collect everything, I would keep the block intact, having no intention to sell my stamps at this time.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Learn More...
United States
849 Posts
Posted 01/15/2017   3:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jkelley01938 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The whole idea of breaking up perfectly nice blocks to obtain one "perfect" single is reprehensible. I'll be happier once this crazy fad is over.

Jack Kelley
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
99 Posts
Posted 01/15/2017   4:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DuncanDoenitz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I participated in breaking up a nice plate block of US Scott #635a - Jim Griffith out in Sunnyvale California collects high grade MNH US stamps (and posts images of his collection online on his own beautiful custom album pages) and he wanted a single from the block. He wasn't particularly interested in the color variety, but I was. So he bid on the block and we split it. The image of the intact block still serves to confirm the color.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by DuncanDoenitz - 01/15/2017 4:17 pm
Valued Member
Learn More...
Canada
328 Posts
Posted 01/15/2017   6:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It would be nice to see a scanned pic of what one is talking about......Scott 635a maybe ?
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
434 Posts
Posted 01/15/2017   8:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rgstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As others have pointed out on previous threads about this subject, and likely not relevant to modern blocks ....

Perhaps 30 years from now after all the beautiful classic plate blocks and multiples are broken up, and the supply wanes to nonexistent, such as the beautiful 15c Canadian shown above, then the price of these plate blocks and multiples will skyrocket... I may be dreaming?
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
99 Posts
Posted 01/16/2017   02:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DuncanDoenitz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The US #635a mentioned earlier...



As noted, this block was Mint Never Hinged and nicely centered and a nice example of the bright violet color variety.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
1425 Posts
Posted 01/16/2017   11:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
The whole idea of breaking up perfectly nice blocks to obtain one "perfect" single is reprehensible. I'll be happier once this crazy fad is over.

Jack Kelley


What is wrong with doing what I did? If I can save money using older stamps why not?
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Page: of 2 Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
Next Page
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
United States Postal Service, Now on eBay!United States Postal Service, Now on eBay!
New Forum Topics Recently Active Forum Topics
  Holiday Windows perf errors
  New Edition of Michel Zeppelin Catalog Coming Soon
  Canada C-1 sheets of 50
  Norway 1932 Scott #154-157 2 sets, mh and used
  Sudden Appearance of POP-UP AD
  I fined that lot what do you think it is possible
  Has the APS started to accept Paypal yet?
  Come to Wiscopex '17!
  Come to Baypex Green Bay '17!
  Come to Stampfest '17!
  Canada C-1, any one know of sheets of 50 that have ever been available?
  1938 Jamaca Scott 116b Watermark Sideways cv $9000 does anybody know?
  Difficulty Purchasing the USA Star coils
  Cancel to order - why are they worth so little
  Don't know which choices to make
  When does the hobby become a business?
  Help me identify (2) mystery Mexico Stamps?
  Does anyone know what this 3 cent stamp is from 1909 ?
  What kind of features do you expect from digital (philatelic) publications?
  Principality of Trinidad stamps -Principauté de Trinidad
  Scott numbering system
  Another Ebay auction that is too good to believe
  Is this a improperly perforated South Australia one penny
  Latvia 1919 official 10 KON dark blue color shift.
  German's 10 pfg with 5pfg overprint with "Blaustrich line"

  US #505 Five Cent Die Error and other news of the day
  I fined that lot what do you think it is possible
  Canada C-1 sheets of 50
  North and South Korean Stamps
  Holiday Windows perf errors
  The Stamps of Turkey : On Steiner Pages.
  Difficulty Purchasing the USA Star coils
  Some post cards Does it have any value?
  Curious about Webstore anyone heard of or tried it?
  perf punch on back of stamp
  Norway 1932 Scott #154-157 2 sets, mh and used
  Don't know which choices to make
  Whats in your Library?
  Zeppelin Mail -- Graf Zeppelin (LZ-127)
  New Edition of Michel Zeppelin Catalog Coming Soon
  Scouting stamps from around the world
  Tall Ships on Stamps
  danish classics, show them to me.
  HIV, VIH, AIDS, SIDA, and PWAs
  Cancel to order - why are they worth so little
  What kind of features do you expect from digital (philatelic) publications?
  BRIDGES,BRIDGES,BRIDGES! on stamps
  Principality of Trinidad stamps -Principauté de Trinidad
  Outrageous Stupidity on eBay
  French colonies mh and used. 88 stamps.

Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Stamp Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2017 Stamp Community Family - All rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Stamp Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Privacy Policy / Terms of Use    Advertise Here
Stamp Community Forum © 2007 - 2014 Stamp Community Forums Go To Top Of Page
It took 0.94 seconds to lick this stamp. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05