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Roman States Scott #15 (A15) 10 cent Black,Vermilon,Imperf 1867  
 

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Posted 11/29/2016   1:08 pm  Show Profile Check stallzer's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's a common reprint. The lack of detail should be a dead give away. Compare it to a certified example and you will see.
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Posted 11/29/2016   4:42 pm  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KRelyea to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 11/29/2016   6:42 pm  Show Profile Check stallzer's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My bad, not reprint rather a remainder of the 1868 issue. The original imperfs were printed on glazed paper. Yours does not appear to have been printed on glazed paper.
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Posted 01/10/2017   5:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamp looks authentic, the deep color a little tarnished ,the design and everything.These stamps had a simple but organized design to them which could be misleading into thinking they are naive .Definetly not the perf stamp trimmed.The authentic perf variety always had perfs crossing the inside frame line on at least two sides.Now it could be a reprint. It would be nice to see the back.
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Posted 01/10/2017   9:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tvorog to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
edw_kim:

1) This stamp is dirty, scratched, and damaged (creases). I bet it's without full gum, which would lower its value (if it has any value) 3 times.

2) Perf12 is correct, it cannot be Scott 22a trimmed (too many frame lines are showing). However, Unificato values a no-gum imperf 10c at 300. Taking into account the condition of this stamp, I wouldn't buy it for $1.

Sorry, but this example doesn't impress me in any way and Philatelic Foundation wouldn't be impressed, either. Don't waste your money on expertizing this one, please.
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Edited by tvorog - 01/10/2017 9:34 pm
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Posted 01/10/2017   10:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tvorog to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Edited by tvorog - 01/11/2017 12:54 am
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Posted 01/11/2017   03:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicalStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
99% of these are forgeries (illegal reprints).
Collecting them without having specialist literature is probably not a good idea. Get a copy of the book mentioned:

"Roman States Forgeries: The Issue of 1867 - 1868 by Levitsky and Jenkins."
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Posted 01/11/2017   08:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply




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Posted 01/11/2017   08:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This stamp is Vermiglio- arancio,with original gum; no.17 Sassone. selling on e-bay 499euros ; filatelia-ferrario .With the clear gum cracked, even some tarnishing on the face.
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Posted 01/11/2017   11:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just for the record that stamp shown above is a 1890 GELLI & TANI REPRINT ,it is in the shade of the first reprint , the second printing is in a darker orange vermillion both of these reprints are also known with perforations .The stamp above is not a 1889 M.J.B.Moens reprint because the two tassels on each side of the hat don't have lines thru them and on Moens the two circles above the value have four dots that are smaller and separate from the center design in the circle ,also on Moens the patterns in the hat are more clearly define . It is also not a 1890 David Cohn reprint because his were a much finer design ,in a paler color than that shown above .
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Posted 01/11/2017   1:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I thought it was only Usigli that reprinted these stamps with their continuous horizontal lines like the originals...
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Posted 01/11/2017   1:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Makanudo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have this stamp in different form. When I got it, a while ago, I read few hreads and filed it in my classer under fake:



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Posted 01/11/2017   1:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamp on the edge of the sheet,note the contiuous vertical line on the left.It could be the very dull red variety.perf 13 ?
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Posted 01/11/2017   2:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Makanudo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Noted.
It is perf 13 three sides and the paper is not glazed, but I would call it chalky.
It has no gum and it has been hinged.
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