Stamp Community Family of Web Sites
Stamp Community Forum
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

Welcome Guest! Need help? Got a question? Inherit some stamps?
Our stamp forum is completely free! Register Now!

Bureau Precancel Albums  
 

 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
Pillar Of The Community
United States
807 Posts
Posted 09/27/2016   7:35 pm  Show Profile Check Stamps1962's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Stamps1962 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Message
There are two page sets for these I know of- the Noble pages and also the ones Bill Steiner produces.

I bought a set of the Noble pages last year but so far ave not done much with them. One problem for me seems to be that the pages look crowded. Each page is configured the same with too many stamps on each, IMO.

The Steiner pages are less so but- they are organized by stamp issue, not by town and city. I am wondering if anyone collecting Bureaus has a preference? Organizing by city seems the most logical to me but I'd think by issue might be more attractive. Any input?
Send note to Staff

Valued Member
Learn More...
United States
141 Posts
Posted 09/27/2016   8:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dkabq8 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is also the K&P Bureau Album. It is what is "recommended" in "Collecting United States Bureau Precancels" (by Curtis E. Giddings).

"As a word of advice, the easiest way to build your collection is to obtain a normal album such as the K&P Bureau Album. This album provides spaces for all of the Bureau issues and requires the least amount of labor to build an attractive collection."

A quick search for K&P Bureau Album images finds that its pages look crowded (YMMV).

Personally, I have yet to decide if I am going to use Steiner (which I have in-hand) or buy the K&P.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by dkabq8 - 09/27/2016 9:00 pm
Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
17679 Posts
Posted 09/27/2016   8:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I am using Steiner pages, but I really don't know what I am doing

Can anyone offer a pre cancel collecting 101 ?
How does one define "bureau" precancel?
Does Steiner have spaces for all precancels?
What are the numbers on my pages?

Thanks for any sage advice.



Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
17679 Posts
Posted 09/27/2016   8:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
About 10 years ago I bought a spring back folder of about 10-15 pages of these.
All differing types.
What numbers might these be?

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Learn More...
United States
835 Posts
Posted 09/29/2016   09:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Trainwreck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The numbers in the form xxx-yy (on the second image) are the Scott catalog number followed by the Precancel Stamp Society (PSS) precancel style number.

The handwritten numbers on the third image are Scott catalog numbers.

Hope this helps.

Regards, Robert
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
17679 Posts
Posted 09/29/2016   3:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much Robert.

Is there a free source to identify PSS styles, at all?


Quote:
The handwritten numbers on the third image are Scott catalog numbers.


How can this be? the 4c bottom of page for example, is showing 3 differing numbers.
or am I missing something?
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by rod222 - 09/29/2016 3:14 pm
Pillar Of The Community
Learn More...
United States
835 Posts
Posted 09/29/2016   3:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Trainwreck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Assuming the original creator of that album page correctly identified the stamps, then
4-cent Martha Washington (2 of them) = Scott 636,
4-cent Taft = Scott 685.

For the 5-cent Roosevelts in the bottom row, different perforation measurements result in three different catalog numbers.

I don't have a catalog handy at the moment so I can't verify the catalog numbers.

Regards, Robert

By the way, I know of no free source of PSS styles.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by Trainwreck - 09/29/2016 3:50 pm
Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
17679 Posts
Posted 09/29/2016   4:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Again, thanks Robert.

Yes solved, all the Martha with differing numbers identified printing varieties as well, the rotary printed etc.

I'll try and source a precancel catalogue on eBay for the "types"


Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
17679 Posts
Posted 09/29/2016   4:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

More Precancel Convention Labels, for those whom may be interested...


Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
17679 Posts
Posted 09/29/2016   4:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Start of 1981 Transportation coils, collection.

Steiner Page 3-99

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
Learn More...
United States
141 Posts
Posted 10/03/2016   07:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dkabq8 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
FWIW, I decided to use the free T&T album pages available on the PSS website and print bureau pages (standard format) using the PSS software/bureau's database.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
207 Posts
Posted 10/15/2016   08:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add clifhiker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
here's a link to some information and a free PDF PSS style chart ... clink on the link about half way down the page and it'll open a PDF ...

http://www.precancels.com/styles/
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
207 Posts
Posted 10/15/2016   08:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add clifhiker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
here is a homemade page for Chicago Bureaus ... made it using the PSS Bureau catalog and MS Word

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
17679 Posts
Posted 10/15/2016   09:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much, clifhiker.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
  Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
United States Postal Service, Now on eBay!United States Postal Service, Now on eBay!
New Forum Topics Recently Active Forum Topics
  Having trouble with Czechoslovakia stamp
  Holiday Windows perf errors
  New Edition of Michel Zeppelin Catalog Coming Soon
  Canada C-1 sheets of 50
  Norway 1932 Scott #154-157 2 sets, mh and used
  Sudden Appearance of POP-UP AD
  I fined that lot what do you think it is possible
  Has the APS started to accept Paypal yet?
  Come to Wiscopex '17!
  Come to Baypex Green Bay '17!
  Come to Stampfest '17!
  Canada C-1, any one know of sheets of 50 that have ever been available?
  1938 Jamaca Scott 116b Watermark Sideways cv $9000 does anybody know?
  Difficulty Purchasing the USA Star coils
  Cancel to order - why are they worth so little
  Don't know which choices to make
  When does the hobby become a business?
  Help me identify (2) mystery Mexico Stamps?
  Does anyone know what this 3 cent stamp is from 1909 ?
  What kind of features do you expect from digital (philatelic) publications?
  Principality of Trinidad stamps -Principauté de Trinidad
  Scott numbering system
  Another Ebay auction that is too good to believe
  Is this a improperly perforated South Australia one penny
  Latvia 1919 official 10 KON dark blue color shift.

  Having trouble with Czechoslovakia stamp
  Whats in your Library?
  The Stamps of Turkey : On Steiner Pages.
  perf punch on back of stamp
  Collecting by Engraver
  New sub-forum for the 'I Inherited some stamps' posts
  New Edition of Michel Zeppelin Catalog Coming Soon
  Denmark Scott 597 & 598 , printed photogravure or offset ?
  What kind of features do you expect from digital (philatelic) publications?
  Black and White Stamps
  North and South Korean Stamps
  BEARS on Stamps... Minus Polar Bears!
  Difficulty Purchasing the USA Star coils
  Let's see your most recently purchased stamps
  US #505 Five Cent Die Error and other news of the day
  I fined that lot what do you think it is possible
  Canada C-1 sheets of 50
  Holiday Windows perf errors
  Some post cards Does it have any value?
  Curious about Webstore anyone heard of or tried it?
  Norway 1932 Scott #154-157 2 sets, mh and used
  Don't know which choices to make
  Zeppelin Mail -- Graf Zeppelin (LZ-127)
  Scouting stamps from around the world
  Tall Ships on Stamps

Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Stamp Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2017 Stamp Community Family - All rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Stamp Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Privacy Policy / Terms of Use    Advertise Here
Stamp Community Forum © 2007 - 2014 Stamp Community Forums Go To Top Of Page
It took 0.61 seconds to lick this stamp. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05