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Posted 01/07/2017   3:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great post, Michael,
thanks for expanding our knowledge base.

$400 seems a great investment stamp, with an issue number of 175.

What exactly was a "Museum stamp" ? ....Supposedly for receipts of purchases?
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Turkey
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Posted 01/08/2017   01:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well there were only 6 of them issued - 4 in 1908 & 2 more in 1910. (High values on just the revenue stamps, without overprints.) Like any other revenue stamp - to pay a tax for something. Logic follows it would be for a purchase by a museum. Always seemed strange to me too, but given they had revenue stamps for almost every imaginable purpose - tree-cutting fees; cleaning fees etc - why not museums?
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Posted 01/09/2017   4:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
On the first printing of the tughra stamps. They weren't going to release them at all due to the issues with the control band overwriting the design but they ran out of the second printing before the 1865 issue was ready. They reprinted the low values on paper they colored on one side and released the 1st printing for the higher values. I find the border frame to be a much better indication for determining 1st printing, since the bottom border is so much closer to the design than in later printings. You only need to use the secret marks for examples cut really close at bottom where the control band is also unusually low. Control band at top is always 1st printing, control band at bottom overwriting the design is almost always 1st printing.

Great to see the revolution overprinted museum stamp. That is one of the rarest of Turkish, beat only by a couple more of those overprints IIRC.

The Mustafa Kemal Pasha, Kemal Ataturk issues are fun, though Scott doesn't differentiate well between papers. I think I'vr got them covered now, to 1940 anyway, though my website has an older scan missing the 250k on matte paper.
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Posted 01/09/2017   4:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Auction Realisations
Turkey Museum Stamp $1,400 AUD 32 bids





Turkey 1986 Revenues $15 aud 4 bids

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Posted 01/11/2017   04:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

The long awaited package from the Netherlands arrived. (53 days)

Nice to welcome a Sc#66 1886 P11 CV$150 2009
Some foxing issues.
Lilac on Pale Lilac

Query: Can anyone suggest why the Arabic "5" on the left hand side of these currency issues, appear to be on "their side" ?




Alongside a 5 para Black.

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Posted 01/11/2017   04:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I defer to the intelligentsia for these,
I am completely out of my depth.
I have this as.............

Sc#1
1883
20 Paras Black on Yellow cancelled with a 4 quartered Postmark (Any ideas?) lines and diamonds. seems common.
Red Band Imperf. Has "secret mark"
Very thin paper, transparent like "goldbeater's skin"





Secret Mark

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Posted 01/12/2017   02:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Finally, after keeping the topic in memory over the past few months,
and being looked down upon, in Tool Shops.
Serendipity calls, as she often does, when one is patient.

A bargain from a Garage sale, A Lass dropped around a flyer for her garage sale, she often gives me her stamps clipped from envelopes,
On the flyer, in bold letters, amongst others........MICROMETER

Yay!

I shall report soon on my findings for Paper Thickness of the President Inonu Set.

(Teaser: A Prinz acid free stamp hinge, is just a smidge over 1000'th of an inch)

$20

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Edited by rod222 - 01/12/2017 02:54 am
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Posted 01/12/2017   08:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Quote:
Query: Can anyone suggest why the Arabic "5" on the left hand side of these currency issues, appear to be on "their side" ?


That's a nice question! I hadn't noticed this before.

If you look at the other values with this design you'll see that none of the Turkish numbers is upright.

They are all at an angle slanting in towards the centre.


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Posted 01/15/2017   08:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Turkish Air Association
1943 set
Example Image
http://goscf.com/t/52544
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Posted 01/15/2017   10:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add same to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


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Posted 01/15/2017   4:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lovely scan Same

The above stamp, not seen before by me.
Turkey in Asia (Anatolia)
1921
Religious Tribunals Revenue, overprinted "Ottoman Post 1920"
Sc Middle (Type B overprint)
Sc#13 R1 Ultramarine 5 piastres.

CV $16,000

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Posted 01/16/2017   8:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Still fumbling around with the first issues.

I have this as Sc#2a 1 Piastre Black on Grey.

The paper is very much thicker, than the Sc#1 I posted.
Sc#1 was .00125" thick
Sc#2a = .00325" thick

The secret mark qualifies.

This stamp looks dodgy to me, I don't like the way the Crescent flattens off
at the left hand frame line.

No colour on back of stamp, could be Sc#7 ?



Secret Mark.

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Edited by rod222 - 01/16/2017 8:54 pm
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Posted 01/17/2017   12:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome opinions on some that are a bit foggy on identification, please.

"Crescent" Series.

NOTE: Overprints on at least the 1873 issues, whilst the same script, differ in shape, the overprints were either re-drawn, or I have forgeries.
Scott does not mention this.

Sc#0026 1869 25pi A5 dull rose $38 $125 P13



Sc#0028 1870 10pa A5 brown $500 $15 P8



Sc0036 1873 10pa A5 olive brown $110 $18 P12



Sc#0036a 1873 10pa A5 bistre $110 $11 P12

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Edited by rod222 - 01/17/2017 12:35 am
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Posted 01/17/2017   06:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sc#52 1876 5 Piastres on 5 paras Surcharge.



It jumps in value from $3 to $50 if it is cancelled



Rapscallions have been at work, a really poor FORGERY
Look at

Colour
Thickness of frame
the "e" in "Pres"
Bottom right corner- Hexagons turn into circles.

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Edited by rod222 - 01/17/2017 06:08 am
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Posted 01/17/2017   12:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your 'rapscallion' (??!) is a famous, well-known forger...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TURKEY-1876...047675.l2557
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